> i'll ignore the infrastructure costs, it's free to drive on I-5 after all. Ugh. Like I said. =\ We aren’t building a new city with no initial infrastructure

> i'll ignore the infrastructure costs, it's free to drive on I-5 after all. Ugh. Like I said. =\ We aren’t building a new city with no initial infrastructure. This isn’t Sim City. And we aren’t rebuilding after getting firebombed and flattened in WW2. What we do have is an actually pretty good interstate highway system that was built in the 50s by eradicating minority neighborhoods and rampant use of eminent domain. The only relevant question “given where we are today, what makes sense”. How much does it cost to go from where we are to a rich and robust train system? So, we have a bunch of highways that require maintenance/growth and a bunch of train track that needs to be built. If you want to move budget from highway maintenance to train track construction and maintenance that’s totally cool. But you can’t just handwave it away. I’ve read all the articles about why America sucks at building rail and what the per mile cost is. So. Napkin math. How much to build, operate, and maintain a high-speed rail system in the PNW. Full system costs. Face value. With zero complaining or snark about how much we spend on cars/highways today.