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But i'm not talking about health effects of salt in Coca Cola ... I'm questioning the reason why it's included at all. As you said ... it's not much, you won't

by myshpa 3y ago

But i'm not talking about health effects of salt in Coca Cola ... I'm questioning the reason why it's included at all. As you said ... it's not much, you won't even notice it. So the reason it's there is to increase consumption (to keep you thirsty and to tolerate more sugar) and addiction. https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/soda-addiction https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/soda-addiction Because soda contains several potentially habit-forming substances like caffeine, sodium, and sugar or artificial sweeteners, it’s easier to become dependent on soda than you might think

gruez 3y ago
>I'm questioning the reason why it's included at all. Because it makes the final product taste better. You can reframe that to mean something nefarious (ie. "it's there is to increase [...] addiction"), but fundamentally it's not any different than you adding salt when you're cooking. >it's not much, you won't even notice it >Because soda contains several potentially habit-forming substances like [...] sodium Let me get this straight. You're claiming that "you won't even notice it" yet it's also "habit-forming"? What's the mechanism by which drinking 0.2g of salt per 20oz bottle gets you addicted?
- myshpa 3y ago
  The link I've posted has links to sources for their claim (there are more): https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24829986/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24829986/ A Classic Innate Behavior, Sodium Appetite, Is Driven by Hypothalamic Gene-Regulatory Programs Previously Linked to Addiction and Reward https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29673924/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29673924/ Food additives, food and the concept of 'food addiction': Is stimulation of the brain reward circuit by food sufficient to trigger addiction?
  - gruez 3y ago
    > The link I've posted has links to sources for their claim (there are more): I don't doubt that salty foods in general are delicious and make people want to eat more. I'm doubting whether the effect applies specifically for coke, which only has 0.2g it per 20oz bottle. What you're doing is like looking at a car crash and concluding that it's caused by alcohol because the driver ate some bread[1] before driving. [1] https://www.scienceabc.com/pure-sciences/does-your-bread-contain-alcohol.html https://www.scienceabc.com/pure-sciences/does-your-bread-con...
    - myshpa 3y ago
      > I'm doubting whether the effect applies specifically for coke I'm not pretending I'm the expert. > What you're doing I'm cited the source. > it's caused by alcohol because the driver ate some bread Don't tell our politicians ... we have 0% limit.
      - gruez 3y ago
        >I'm cited the source. A source that fails to list what the dosage is, and I highly suspect isn't in the range of 0.2g/20oz. >Don't tell our politicians ... we have 0% limit. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_alcohol_content#0% https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_alcohol_content#0% >It is illegal to have any measurable alcohol in the blood while driving in these countries. Most jurisdictions have a tolerance slightly higher than zero to account for false positives and naturally occurring alcohol in the body.
- objektif 3y ago
  Hold on you think Cola company is not doing nefarious stuff? This feels like late stage capitalism. Why do you feel this much of a need to defend a corporation? I am as much of a capitalist as it gets but come on. https://laborrights.org/in-the-news/2005-list-14-worst-corporate-evildoers https://laborrights.org/in-the-news/2005-list-14-worst-corpo...
  - gruez 3y ago
    >Hold on you think Cola company is not doing nefarious stuff? Not any more than the bakery down the street is "doing nefarious stuff" by adding salt to their bread.

by myshpa 3y ago

gruez 3y ago

>I'm questioning the reason why it's included at all. Because it makes the final product taste better. You can reframe that to mean something nefarious (ie. "it's there is to increase [...] addiction"), but fundamentally it's not any different than you adding salt when you're cooking. >it's not much, you won't even notice it >Because soda contains several potentially habit-forming substances like [...] sodium Let me get this straight. You're claiming that "you won't even notice it" yet it's also "habit-forming"? What's the mechanism by which drinking 0.2g of salt per 20oz bottle gets you addicted?

myshpa 3y ago
The link I've posted has links to sources for their claim (there are more): https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24829986/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24829986/ A Classic Innate Behavior, Sodium Appetite, Is Driven by Hypothalamic Gene-Regulatory Programs Previously Linked to Addiction and Reward https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29673924/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29673924/ Food additives, food and the concept of 'food addiction': Is stimulation of the brain reward circuit by food sufficient to trigger addiction?
- gruez 3y ago
  > The link I've posted has links to sources for their claim (there are more): I don't doubt that salty foods in general are delicious and make people want to eat more. I'm doubting whether the effect applies specifically for coke, which only has 0.2g it per 20oz bottle. What you're doing is like looking at a car crash and concluding that it's caused by alcohol because the driver ate some bread[1] before driving. [1] https://www.scienceabc.com/pure-sciences/does-your-bread-contain-alcohol.html https://www.scienceabc.com/pure-sciences/does-your-bread-con...
  - myshpa 3y ago
    > I'm doubting whether the effect applies specifically for coke I'm not pretending I'm the expert. > What you're doing I'm cited the source. > it's caused by alcohol because the driver ate some bread Don't tell our politicians ... we have 0% limit.
    - gruez 3y ago
      >I'm cited the source. A source that fails to list what the dosage is, and I highly suspect isn't in the range of 0.2g/20oz. >Don't tell our politicians ... we have 0% limit. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_alcohol_content#0% https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_alcohol_content#0% >It is illegal to have any measurable alcohol in the blood while driving in these countries. Most jurisdictions have a tolerance slightly higher than zero to account for false positives and naturally occurring alcohol in the body.
objektif 3y ago
Hold on you think Cola company is not doing nefarious stuff? This feels like late stage capitalism. Why do you feel this much of a need to defend a corporation? I am as much of a capitalist as it gets but come on. https://laborrights.org/in-the-news/2005-list-14-worst-corporate-evildoers https://laborrights.org/in-the-news/2005-list-14-worst-corpo...
- gruez 3y ago
  >Hold on you think Cola company is not doing nefarious stuff? Not any more than the bakery down the street is "doing nefarious stuff" by adding salt to their bread.