4 ms·

That's because you live in a car centric place. In a well designed city, a car is optional. I recommend watching Not Just Bikes videos on the subject: https

• xyzelement 3y ago
  You might have missed or forgot the start of my post where I told you I lived in NYC (an immensely walkable city) without a car for 20+ years. And that I gave it up quickly and gladly for a more car-based life once kids came. The whole point of my post is a shift in perspective. Just curious, how many kids do you have?
  • Kuinox 3y ago
    I did not missed it, but you describing it as a walkable city was funny. I don't have kids, but you also watched 0 video of the person I sent. They do have kids. Also, lots of inhabitants of Paris, Amsterdam have kids, yet a lot simply don't have a car.
    • xyzelement 3y ago
      Sure. I grew up in eastern Europe and most people didn't have a car - because they couldn't afford it. The few lucky ones that had one used it all the time. I can totally imagine having a kid in NYC or Paris or whatever without a car it's just a pain in the ass.
      • Kuinox 3y ago
        An appartement in Paris for a family is at least a millions dollar, you are telling me they can't afford a car? No, moving in car is simply inconvenient here. You can walk or take the public transit to get where you want, it's just faster. Lots of parisians have a car, often in a parking spot far from their home, and rarely uses it. Someone commuting to Paris with a car instead of public transit is seen as someone mad loosing their time in bad transit. Again, watch the videos of the person I sent, you prone bringing a new point of view while it's the same carbrain arguments that is unable to even imagine an alternative, that already exists.
        • xyzelement 3y ago
          Again I don't understand your point. Obviously it's possible to live in a city without a car and with kids and some percentage of people will chose to do that for a variety of reasons. Nobody is disputing that. Both US and other counties have cities where you can live without a car and some people do that. If that's all you are claiming then sure I agree. My point is simply that the likelihood of someone wanting/needing a car goes up as they have kids. Are you telling me that the likelihood of a Parisian family moving out of the city and/or getting a car doesn't statistically increase with every incremental child? I'd find that hard to believe. I would also bet that there are very few Parisian families having 3+ kids while it's more likely outside of the city, same as in the US.
          • Kuinox 3y ago
            > Again I don't understand your point I linked a YouTube channel. Watch one of his videos. He explain it very well.
• mlrtime 3y ago
  I'm 100% with OP. Also lived in NYC for 10 years without a car. I had everything I needed within a 10 minute walk including my commute to work. Have you ever seen a family struggle to get two strollers down to a subway? After having kids , a single family house and a car is 100% better. After reading most of the replies in this thread I'm guessing it is mostly filled with younger people without kids... notice I'm saying mostly, not all.
  • Kuinox 3y ago
    It would be nice, that you watched the content I linked with my reply, before replying. Both OP and you didn't.