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And microplastics too, and sugars, and puss, and blood, pesticides, estrogens ... and? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcN7SGGoCNI https://www.youtube.com/watc

by myshpa 3y ago

And microplastics too, and sugars, and puss, and blood, pesticides, estrogens ... and? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcN7SGGoCNI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcN7SGGoCNI

gruez 3y ago
If a natural product that isn't obviously salty has 3x the sodium, then it's probably not worth worrying about. Besides, it's 3% of DV for a 20oz bottle. You'd have to drink a hilariously high amount for the negative effects of salt to kick in.
- myshpa 3y ago
  But i'm not talking about health effects of salt in Coca Cola ... I'm questioning the reason why it's included at all. As you said ... it's not much, you won't even notice it. So the reason it's there is to increase consumption (to keep you thirsty and to tolerate more sugar) and addiction. https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/soda-addiction https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/soda-addiction Because soda contains several potentially habit-forming substances like caffeine, sodium, and sugar or artificial sweeteners, it’s easier to become dependent on soda than you might think
  - gruez 3y ago
    >I'm questioning the reason why it's included at all. Because it makes the final product taste better. You can reframe that to mean something nefarious (ie. "it's there is to increase [...] addiction"), but fundamentally it's not any different than you adding salt when you're cooking. >it's not much, you won't even notice it >Because soda contains several potentially habit-forming substances like [...] sodium Let me get this straight. You're claiming that "you won't even notice it" yet it's also "habit-forming"? What's the mechanism by which drinking 0.2g of salt per 20oz bottle gets you addicted?
    - myshpa 3y ago
      The link I've posted has links to sources for their claim (there are more): https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24829986/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24829986/ A Classic Innate Behavior, Sodium Appetite, Is Driven by Hypothalamic Gene-Regulatory Programs Previously Linked to Addiction and Reward https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29673924/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29673924/ Food additives, food and the concept of 'food addiction': Is stimulation of the brain reward circuit by food sufficient to trigger addiction?
      - gruez 3y ago
        > The link I've posted has links to sources for their claim (there are more): I don't doubt that salty foods in general are delicious and make people want to eat more. I'm doubting whether the effect applies specifically for coke, which only has 0.2g it per 20oz bottle. What you're doing is like looking at a car crash and concluding that it's caused by alcohol because the driver ate some bread[1] before driving. [1] https://www.scienceabc.com/pure-sciences/does-your-bread-contain-alcohol.html https://www.scienceabc.com/pure-sciences/does-your-bread-con...
        myshpa 3y ago
        > I'm doubting whether the effect applies specifically for coke I'm not pretending I'm the expert. > What you're doing I'm cited the source. > it's caused by alcohol because the driver ate some bread Don't tell our politicians ... we have 0% limit.
        gruez 3y ago
        >I'm cited the source. A source that fails to list what the dosage is, and I highly suspect isn't in the range of 0.2g/20oz. >Don't tell our politicians ... we have 0% limit. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_alcohol_content#0% https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_alcohol_content#0% >It is illegal to have any measurable alcohol in the blood while driving in these countries. Most jurisdictions have a tolerance slightly higher than zero to account for false positives and naturally occurring alcohol in the body.

by myshpa 3y ago

And microplastics too, and sugars, and puss, and blood, pesticides, estrogens ... and? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcN7SGGoCNI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcN7SGGoCNI

gruez 3y ago

If a natural product that isn't obviously salty has 3x the sodium, then it's probably not worth worrying about. Besides, it's 3% of DV for a 20oz bottle. You'd have to drink a hilariously high amount for the negative effects of salt to kick in.

myshpa 3y ago
But i'm not talking about health effects of salt in Coca Cola ... I'm questioning the reason why it's included at all. As you said ... it's not much, you won't even notice it. So the reason it's there is to increase consumption (to keep you thirsty and to tolerate more sugar) and addiction. https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/soda-addiction https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/soda-addiction Because soda contains several potentially habit-forming substances like caffeine, sodium, and sugar or artificial sweeteners, it’s easier to become dependent on soda than you might think
- gruez 3y ago
  >I'm questioning the reason why it's included at all. Because it makes the final product taste better. You can reframe that to mean something nefarious (ie. "it's there is to increase [...] addiction"), but fundamentally it's not any different than you adding salt when you're cooking. >it's not much, you won't even notice it >Because soda contains several potentially habit-forming substances like [...] sodium Let me get this straight. You're claiming that "you won't even notice it" yet it's also "habit-forming"? What's the mechanism by which drinking 0.2g of salt per 20oz bottle gets you addicted?
  - myshpa 3y ago
    The link I've posted has links to sources for their claim (there are more): https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24829986/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24829986/ A Classic Innate Behavior, Sodium Appetite, Is Driven by Hypothalamic Gene-Regulatory Programs Previously Linked to Addiction and Reward https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29673924/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29673924/ Food additives, food and the concept of 'food addiction': Is stimulation of the brain reward circuit by food sufficient to trigger addiction?
    - gruez 3y ago
      > The link I've posted has links to sources for their claim (there are more): I don't doubt that salty foods in general are delicious and make people want to eat more. I'm doubting whether the effect applies specifically for coke, which only has 0.2g it per 20oz bottle. What you're doing is like looking at a car crash and concluding that it's caused by alcohol because the driver ate some bread[1] before driving. [1] https://www.scienceabc.com/pure-sciences/does-your-bread-contain-alcohol.html https://www.scienceabc.com/pure-sciences/does-your-bread-con...
      - myshpa 3y ago
        > I'm doubting whether the effect applies specifically for coke I'm not pretending I'm the expert. > What you're doing I'm cited the source. > it's caused by alcohol because the driver ate some bread Don't tell our politicians ... we have 0% limit.
        gruez 3y ago
        >I'm cited the source. A source that fails to list what the dosage is, and I highly suspect isn't in the range of 0.2g/20oz. >Don't tell our politicians ... we have 0% limit. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_alcohol_content#0% https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_alcohol_content#0% >It is illegal to have any measurable alcohol in the blood while driving in these countries. Most jurisdictions have a tolerance slightly higher than zero to account for false positives and naturally occurring alcohol in the body.