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Food and drink products are going to cause the most pollution compared to other products, because food and drinks are consumed with a higher frequency than anyt
by csallen 3y ago
Food and drink products are going to cause the most pollution compared to other products, because food and drinks are consumed with a higher frequency than anything thing else on the planet.
However, being a manufacturer of these products is not the same thing as being a polluter. The polluters are the people doing the actual polluting, by throwing the products into the rivers and oceans.
The vast majority of plastic in the ocean comes from rivers, and a small number of rivers are responsible for the vast majority of river-borne plastic.[0]
The top 10 most polluted rivers do the lion's share of the work, and 8 of them are located in Asia. None are in the west. Even if you look at the top 1000 most pollution-causing rivers, only 1 is in the US and only a few are in Europe.[1]
These disparate results come despite the fact that the US is one of the highest consumers of Coca-Cola products. This suggests that pollution has more to do with societies than companies.
As fashionable as it is to hate on corporations and place the blame at their feet, it's not their job to police pollution, nor or they incentivized to do so. Shaming them will be ineffective, and if we truly care about the planet, we should try to be effective.
Luckily, there is an appropriate target for our ire and suggestions, a target which is both richer and more powerful than every corporation combined, and which is responsible for keeping things clean, and which is accountable to public opinion, and that target is called government.
Societies that are clean are societies that hold their governments accountable to holding polluters accountable, whether they're corporations or individuals. So, in my opinion, our efforts are best directed at governments.
Warren Buffett is not the villain here, and nor is Coca-Cola. Even in a world without Coca-Cola, we'd likely have another behemoth in its place, or (worse) a million little distributors contributing equally (likely more) to pollution, but without a single name by which we can identify them, nor a single entity by which we can effectively police them.
[0] https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/stemming-the-plastic-tide-10-rivers-contribute-most-of-the-plastic-in-the-oceans/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/stemming-the-plas...
[1] https://theoceancleanup.com/sources/ https://theoceancleanup.com/sources/
- myshpa 3y agoSorry, but (sugary) drinks in plastic bottles are just bullshit products that should not exist at all. Production costs are almost zero, health and environmental impacts are extreme. Warren Buffett is the villain. Coca-Cola too. Governments as well. The system as well. I hope that shaming works. Nothing else has brought any change yet.
- csallen 3y agoYou're missing what was literally the entire point of my comment, which is that government action has worked. Shaming the wrong party does not work, regardless of your personal opinion on what the rest of humanity "should" enjoy consuming.
- myshpa 3y ago> government action has worked I don't think that it did. And I don't care about what the humanity is consuming, as long as it doesn't pollute the world excessively. Your rights end where my rights begin, etc.
- csallen 3y agoWhat do you think explains why America has none of the top 10 polluting rivers? And only one of the top 1000? Despite the fact that we use massive amounts of plastic relative to most other countries, and that we are the headquarters of Coca-Cola. It's laws. It's society. It's government. It's mobilization by citizens to get the government to regulate waste disposal -- to make improper disposal of waste illegal, and to fund the creation of easily-accessible environmentally-friendly waste disposal mechanisms. Consuming soft drinks does not pollute the environment. Throwing bottles into rivers does. Your disdain for soft drinks has you mistaking these for the same thing.
- myshpa 3y agoMaybe. Or maybe you export your trash to other countries, to whomever takes it for the least amount of money, and they dump it into the river. We'll never know. I'm not against soft drinks, again. I'm against plastic pollution, be it from plastic bottles or from textiles or packaging materials or whatever. Producing plastic causes plastic pollution, no matter how it's disposed of.