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It's not like Coca-Cola goes around and throws their cans or bottles in nature...

myshpa 3y ago
> It's not like Coca-Cola goes around and throws their cans or bottles in nature They as well could. They choose to profit from producing the stuff. They could as well use glass as they did for decades, or sell reusable bottles and refill those. They choose to operate in countries without proper waste management knowing where that trash will end up, and are operating there anyway. They know the damage they're causing, they've been influencing policies for decades with "reuse, recycle, reduce", even if they knew that recycling doesn't work and that just 8% of plastic ever made was recycled. The (microplasti) pollution problem is huge, and damage they're causing is immense. They are the (major) symptom of the problem that needs solving.
abenga 3y ago
When I was a kid, coca cola products in my country came in glass bottles that you had to leave a refundable deposit to carry away, creating an incentive to keep them out of the garbage and take them back. By moving away from this, yes, they are responsible to some degree for the plastic pollution.
- cinntaile 3y ago
  This exists for plastic bottles as well, your country just didn't implement it as they did for glass. According to your own argument, your country is now responsible to some degree for the plastic pollution.
  - abenga 3y ago
    What do you mean? I can take my plastic bottles back to the seller to get 10 cents per bottle back on the purchase (that's what it was when I was a kid, a non-trivial amount back then), and the bottle will be cleaned and reused without grinding the? Because that's what I meant. Sending plastic bottles to recycling is pointless and doesn't work, anywhere.
  - myshpa 3y ago
    There are microplastics in the contents of those bottles. Just by opening those bottles you're releasing countless microplastics into the air. Even if we'd manage to collect all those bottles, it would still pollute. Yes, governments are among those responsible. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-61146-4 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-61146-4 Microplastics generated when opening plastic packaging https://www.newscientist.com/article/2237900-just-opening-a-plastic-bottle-can-release-thousands-of-microplastics/ https://www.newscientist.com/article/2237900-just-opening-a-... Just opening a plastic bottle can release thousands of microplastics https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/mar/15/microplastics-found-in-more-than-90-of-bottled-water-study-says https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/mar/15/micropla... WHO launches health review after microplastics found in 90% of bottled water This article is more than 5 years old Researchers find levels of plastic fibres in popular bottled water brands could be twice as high as those found in tap water

> It's not like Coca-Cola goes around and throws their cans or bottles in nature They as well could. They choose to profit from producing the stuff. They could as well use glass as they did for decades, or sell reusable bottles and refill those. They choose to operate in countries without proper waste management knowing where that trash will end up, and are operating there anyway. They know the damage they're causing, they've been influencing policies for decades with "reuse, recycle, reduce", even if they knew that recycling doesn't work and that just 8% of plastic ever made was recycled. The (microplasti) pollution problem is huge, and damage they're causing is immense. They are the (major) symptom of the problem that needs solving.

abenga 3y ago

When I was a kid, coca cola products in my country came in glass bottles that you had to leave a refundable deposit to carry away, creating an incentive to keep them out of the garbage and take them back. By moving away from this, yes, they are responsible to some degree for the plastic pollution.

cinntaile 3y ago
This exists for plastic bottles as well, your country just didn't implement it as they did for glass. According to your own argument, your country is now responsible to some degree for the plastic pollution.
- abenga 3y ago
  What do you mean? I can take my plastic bottles back to the seller to get 10 cents per bottle back on the purchase (that's what it was when I was a kid, a non-trivial amount back then), and the bottle will be cleaned and reused without grinding the? Because that's what I meant. Sending plastic bottles to recycling is pointless and doesn't work, anywhere.
- myshpa 3y ago
  There are microplastics in the contents of those bottles. Just by opening those bottles you're releasing countless microplastics into the air. Even if we'd manage to collect all those bottles, it would still pollute. Yes, governments are among those responsible. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-61146-4 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-61146-4 Microplastics generated when opening plastic packaging https://www.newscientist.com/article/2237900-just-opening-a-plastic-bottle-can-release-thousands-of-microplastics/ https://www.newscientist.com/article/2237900-just-opening-a-... Just opening a plastic bottle can release thousands of microplastics https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/mar/15/microplastics-found-in-more-than-90-of-bottled-water-study-says https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/mar/15/micropla... WHO launches health review after microplastics found in 90% of bottled water This article is more than 5 years old Researchers find levels of plastic fibres in popular bottled water brands could be twice as high as those found in tap water