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The primary purpose of law enforcement officers is to maintain the authority of the state. Preventing crime is an indirect activity. However, in thousands of ye

The primary purpose of law enforcement officers is to maintain the authority of the state. Preventing crime is an indirect activity. However, in thousands of years of organised goverment, its the best system we currently have.

justnotworthit 3y ago
you may be interested in James C. Scott's books. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Art_of_Not_Being_Governed https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Art_of_Not_Being_Governe... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_C._Scott#Major_works https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_C._Scott#Major_works
Super_Jambo 3y ago
America's varied policing systems seem to be wildly worse than average for the developed west.
- ekam 3y ago
  In what ways?
- polski-g 3y ago
  That is because America is largely under-policed: https://twitter.com/SwannMarcus89/status/1675570458069028866 https://twitter.com/SwannMarcus89/status/1675570458069028866 Increasing police staff by 10% reduces violent crime by 13%: https://twitter.com/cremieuxrecueil/status/1650723590306689026 https://twitter.com/cremieuxrecueil/status/16507235903066890...
konschubert 3y ago
Those are the same things.
- wahnfrieden 3y ago
  If it were true, wage theft would be the priority over shoplifting as it’s by far the largest category of theft
- rocqua 3y ago
  Preventing crime and defending the authority of the state are quite different. Plenty of protests that challenge the authority of the state are completely legal. The state will not lose much authority if laws broken behind the front door of a family go unpunished. Most of us here are lucky enough to live in a country where the laws were written for more than maintaining the authority of the state.
  - Eisenstein 3y ago
    Police act as the enforcement wing of the judicial system.
    - nxx788 3y ago
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- convolvatron 3y ago
  you don't see a difference there 'I have this authority for the common good, and if I don't use it wisely I can undermine my very goals' vs 'I have this authority, to protect this authority, and if you act to call that into question I have no choice but to make you hurt badly' not really the same
makotech221 3y ago
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bigfryo 3y ago
This video seems to be what modern policing is all about in America https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pDSXf608kqU https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pDSXf608kqU

justnotworthit 3y ago

you may be interested in James C. Scott's books. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Art_of_Not_Being_Governed https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Art_of_Not_Being_Governe... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_C._Scott#Major_works https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_C._Scott#Major_works

Super_Jambo 3y ago

America's varied policing systems seem to be wildly worse than average for the developed west.

ekam 3y ago
In what ways?
polski-g 3y ago
That is because America is largely under-policed: https://twitter.com/SwannMarcus89/status/1675570458069028866 https://twitter.com/SwannMarcus89/status/1675570458069028866 Increasing police staff by 10% reduces violent crime by 13%: https://twitter.com/cremieuxrecueil/status/1650723590306689026 https://twitter.com/cremieuxrecueil/status/16507235903066890...

konschubert 3y ago

Those are the same things.

wahnfrieden 3y ago
If it were true, wage theft would be the priority over shoplifting as it’s by far the largest category of theft
rocqua 3y ago
Preventing crime and defending the authority of the state are quite different. Plenty of protests that challenge the authority of the state are completely legal. The state will not lose much authority if laws broken behind the front door of a family go unpunished. Most of us here are lucky enough to live in a country where the laws were written for more than maintaining the authority of the state.
- Eisenstein 3y ago
  Police act as the enforcement wing of the judicial system.
  - nxx788 3y ago
    [dead]
convolvatron 3y ago
you don't see a difference there 'I have this authority for the common good, and if I don't use it wisely I can undermine my very goals' vs 'I have this authority, to protect this authority, and if you act to call that into question I have no choice but to make you hurt badly' not really the same

makotech221 3y ago

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bigfryo 3y ago

This video seems to be what modern policing is all about in America https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pDSXf608kqU https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pDSXf608kqU