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This is what Oppenheimer should’ve been about. Not SPOILERS Mediocre politics, sex, boredom biopic.

spacephysics 3y ago
The movie was based off a book, which was about Oppenheimer hence the title. I thought it was amazing, sure some parts were a bit long. Makes sense if the movie Hiroshima is more focused on Hiroshima than Oppenheimer.
Knee_Pain 3y ago
A movie about Oppenheimer's life should be about... the immediate fallout of the bomb on the Japanese population?
- mcpackieh 3y ago
  I think his role in that overshadows the rest of his life.
  - Knee_Pain 3y ago
    I think he was a human with a rich multi-faceted life and this line of reasoning is exactly how we arrive in 2023 with people who, for instance, don't know about Columbus' genocides because "discovering America overshadowed the rest of his life so we didn't bother to cover it in school". Yeah, no.
    - mcpackieh 3y ago
      Better for a Columbus movie to focus on the genocides than his sex life, no?
- solumunus 3y ago
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- wiseowise 3y ago
  A movie about Oppenheimer should’ve at least shown what haunted him and weight of his decisions, not one minute (!) of Oppenheimer watching some background video showing surprised face like on this video. https://youtu.be/6pc0u-iqIDw https://youtu.be/6pc0u-iqIDw
wahnfrieden 3y ago
I disliked the anarchism erasure of portraying the Spanish civil war as a "communist party" cause (the authoritarian vanguardist type of communism that the movie focused on)
- vouwfietsman 3y ago
  Good point, was it understood in the US as anarchism at the time, though?
- throwawaymaths 3y ago
  Communism is an anarchist philosophy, at it's root. If it seems a bit weird because (IIRC) this historical dialectic goes: - bourgeois revolution - Workers revolution - Bigger state - Even bigger state - Underpants gnomes - Anarchist utopia Only half joking... this is what turn of the last century communists believed.
  - warkdarrior 3y ago
    As the saying goes, if everyone is part of the state, nobody is part of the state. At some scale, human organizations start to break down.
  - wahnfrieden 3y ago
    anarchists (well maybe except for insurrectionist anarchists) believe in communism as an outcome, but they most definitely do not agree with vanguardism as a means of achieving it. vanguardism is just a kind of elitist authoritarianism.
    - throwawaymaths 3y ago
      I would phrase it this way: (non-communist) anarchists believe in communal living as an outcome Aware that this isn't historically accurate terminology but very few people will appreciate the nuances your definitions requires, as the modern meanings have diverged
FirmwareBurner 3y ago
>This is what Oppenheimer should’ve been about The movie called "Oppenheimer" is mainly about Oppenheimer (shocking, right?), it's not about "the bomb", otherwise it would have been called "Trinity" or "Manhattan" or something. If you want to see a movie about "the bomb" don't watch Oppenheimer.
- wiseowise 3y ago
  > During World War II, Lt. Gen. Leslie Groves Jr. appoints physicist J. Robert Oppenheimer to work on the top-secret Manhattan Project. Oppenheimer and a team of scientists spend years developing and designing the atomic bomb. Their work comes to fruition on July 16, 1945, as they witness the world's first nuclear explosion, forever changing the course of history. Literally from the description of the movie. It promised work of Oppenheimer and team of scientists working on the Manhattan project. Instead it’s a shitty avengers rip off where Oppenheimer assembles team of scientists without any substance and literally no focus on Manhattan project. I expected to see at least the Imitation Game level movie, not subpar plot focused on sex and politics.
nonrepeating 3y ago
The film was fascinating, quite nuanced, and beautifully shot. It’s about people, their relationships, and the evolution of their worldviews much more than it was about a detonation.

The movie was based off a book, which was about Oppenheimer hence the title. I thought it was amazing, sure some parts were a bit long. Makes sense if the movie Hiroshima is more focused on Hiroshima than Oppenheimer.

Knee_Pain 3y ago

A movie about Oppenheimer's life should be about... the immediate fallout of the bomb on the Japanese population?

mcpackieh 3y ago
I think his role in that overshadows the rest of his life.
- Knee_Pain 3y ago
  I think he was a human with a rich multi-faceted life and this line of reasoning is exactly how we arrive in 2023 with people who, for instance, don't know about Columbus' genocides because "discovering America overshadowed the rest of his life so we didn't bother to cover it in school". Yeah, no.
  - mcpackieh 3y ago
    Better for a Columbus movie to focus on the genocides than his sex life, no?
solumunus 3y ago
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wiseowise 3y ago
A movie about Oppenheimer should’ve at least shown what haunted him and weight of his decisions, not one minute (!) of Oppenheimer watching some background video showing surprised face like on this video. https://youtu.be/6pc0u-iqIDw https://youtu.be/6pc0u-iqIDw

wahnfrieden 3y ago

I disliked the anarchism erasure of portraying the Spanish civil war as a "communist party" cause (the authoritarian vanguardist type of communism that the movie focused on)

vouwfietsman 3y ago
Good point, was it understood in the US as anarchism at the time, though?
throwawaymaths 3y ago
Communism is an anarchist philosophy, at it's root. If it seems a bit weird because (IIRC) this historical dialectic goes: - bourgeois revolution - Workers revolution - Bigger state - Even bigger state - Underpants gnomes - Anarchist utopia Only half joking... this is what turn of the last century communists believed.
- warkdarrior 3y ago
  As the saying goes, if everyone is part of the state, nobody is part of the state. At some scale, human organizations start to break down.
- wahnfrieden 3y ago
  anarchists (well maybe except for insurrectionist anarchists) believe in communism as an outcome, but they most definitely do not agree with vanguardism as a means of achieving it. vanguardism is just a kind of elitist authoritarianism.
  - throwawaymaths 3y ago
    I would phrase it this way: (non-communist) anarchists believe in communal living as an outcome Aware that this isn't historically accurate terminology but very few people will appreciate the nuances your definitions requires, as the modern meanings have diverged

FirmwareBurner 3y ago

>This is what Oppenheimer should’ve been about The movie called "Oppenheimer" is mainly about Oppenheimer (shocking, right?), it's not about "the bomb", otherwise it would have been called "Trinity" or "Manhattan" or something. If you want to see a movie about "the bomb" don't watch Oppenheimer.

wiseowise 3y ago
> During World War II, Lt. Gen. Leslie Groves Jr. appoints physicist J. Robert Oppenheimer to work on the top-secret Manhattan Project. Oppenheimer and a team of scientists spend years developing and designing the atomic bomb. Their work comes to fruition on July 16, 1945, as they witness the world's first nuclear explosion, forever changing the course of history. Literally from the description of the movie. It promised work of Oppenheimer and team of scientists working on the Manhattan project. Instead it’s a shitty avengers rip off where Oppenheimer assembles team of scientists without any substance and literally no focus on Manhattan project. I expected to see at least the Imitation Game level movie, not subpar plot focused on sex and politics.

nonrepeating 3y ago

The film was fascinating, quite nuanced, and beautifully shot. It’s about people, their relationships, and the evolution of their worldviews much more than it was about a detonation.