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Time for the usual reminder that there is a search function on the bottom of every single YC page. Air gradient has been extensively discussed here multiple ti

Time for the usual reminder that there is a search function on the bottom of every single YC page. Air gradient has been extensively discussed here multiple times already.

triyambakam 3y ago
I appreciate when things come up again. Obviously enough people either haven't heard of it or want to talk about it again for it to be upgoated to the front page.
- traceroute66 3y ago
  > I appreciate when things come up again My own position on this is that there is difference. If, like today's post, we're talking about what in forum-slang would be a "bump" post, then as far as I'm concerned it has near-zero value. Its basically just attention seeking if we're being honest. Meanwhile if it's re-posting a link but in the context of a significant change, for example a new version with major new features, then obviously it's a different kettle of fish altogether. That's obviously perfectly fine.
  - ahaucnx 3y ago
    This page about the monitor is brand new and contains quite a lot of information that has never been published/posted before, e.g. the exact specs of the monitor and explanations about the enclosure design.
kayson 3y ago
The guy who runs air gradient posts his articles here pretty frequently. Not sure at what point, if any, it breaks the rules. It definitely feels a little spammy to me though.
- hutzlibu 3y ago
  I think there is no rule limiting new links. If it gets voted up, it makes it. And reposting existing links is ok every 6 months or so (I think).
  - dfc 3y ago
    They reposted the "When paying more does not get you more accuracy" link 4 times in 2 months. I don't mind occasional reposts but that seems a little much: https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=airgradient.com https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=airgradient.com
    - ahaucnx 3y ago
      Yes I agree on this one. I reposted it because I thought this could be quite interesting for the hn crowd. On the 4th time it got more than 200 comments. Since then I did not repost it again.
      - dfc 3y ago
        Would you have posted it again if the fourth post did not receive 200 comments?
philshem 3y ago
> …there is a search function on the bottom of every single YC page Weird, in all seriousness, I never noticed.
frognumber 3y ago
I don't mind the repost. It's doing good work. It's good to be reminded of it, and it's a slightly different thing each time. I'll buy it when it's ready for prime time. The founder reads this. Founder: What's held me back from buying this is a lack of github links and instructions. EVERY place you say "open source" should link to the repo. The repo should have CLEAR instructions for how to hack this. There's a lot of copy like "We provide detailed instructions and videos" but NO hyperlink to said detailed instructions or videos. Any place you mention specs should link to ACTUAL specs. What's your BOM? What microcontroller are you using? Do I rewrite the firmware in Python? Rust? MakeCode? Etc. Those are the tires I want to kick. If my child can program this in MakeCode and it's designed for tinkering, it's a no-brainer. If it's on github, and easy to set up to work from my desktop, it's reasonable. If it involves setting up docker containers and proprietary environments for hacking C code, it's not as obvious a buy. If I can't figure out how to get started in 30 seconds, I assume it's the last one. I have a lot of projects around the house I wish I'd done, and I'm not buying more until a few of those finish. Also, I will never pay for your service. The whole point of open everything is I control my data. The other piece I'd like is a dirt-cheap set of temperature / humidity tools. I bought an 8-channel weather station, so I can monitor temperature indoors and in each room. I'd love to switch to something more open. Again, a lot of this comes down to how easy it is to get started. If I can make dashboards in 5 minutes with numpy / plotly / pylab / etc., I'm delighted. If I can't, but it's not bad, I'm grumpier. etc. So in conclusion, I'd do user studies and think-aloud protocols with customers.
- ahaucnx 3y ago
  Thanks, this is great feedback and we definitely lack these links in that new copy. I will add them soon. In the meantime: Build instructions: https://www.airgradient.com/open-airgradient/instructions/diy-open-air-presoldered-v11/ https://www.airgradient.com/open-airgradient/instructions/di... BoM, schematics etc: https://www.airgradient.com/open-airgradient/instructions/diy-open-air-documentation-v11/ https://www.airgradient.com/open-airgradient/instructions/di...
- ted_dunning 3y ago
  You sound like me. The supplier answers all your questions on their website (and as you can see, the founder is taking your suggestions) Also, their software is just as hackable as you seem to want. I was able to create my own dashboard in a very short time using numpy and plotly. I query my archive using duckdb.
declan_roberts 3y ago
I don’t understand, is this a problem? There’s nothing new under the sun.

Time for the usual reminder that there is a search function on the bottom of every single YC page. Air gradient has been extensively discussed here multiple times already.

triyambakam 3y ago

I appreciate when things come up again. Obviously enough people either haven't heard of it or want to talk about it again for it to be upgoated to the front page.

traceroute66 3y ago
> I appreciate when things come up again My own position on this is that there is difference. If, like today's post, we're talking about what in forum-slang would be a "bump" post, then as far as I'm concerned it has near-zero value. Its basically just attention seeking if we're being honest. Meanwhile if it's re-posting a link but in the context of a significant change, for example a new version with major new features, then obviously it's a different kettle of fish altogether. That's obviously perfectly fine.
- ahaucnx 3y ago
  This page about the monitor is brand new and contains quite a lot of information that has never been published/posted before, e.g. the exact specs of the monitor and explanations about the enclosure design.

kayson 3y ago

The guy who runs air gradient posts his articles here pretty frequently. Not sure at what point, if any, it breaks the rules. It definitely feels a little spammy to me though.

hutzlibu 3y ago
I think there is no rule limiting new links. If it gets voted up, it makes it. And reposting existing links is ok every 6 months or so (I think).
- dfc 3y ago
  They reposted the "When paying more does not get you more accuracy" link 4 times in 2 months. I don't mind occasional reposts but that seems a little much: https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=airgradient.com https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=airgradient.com
  - ahaucnx 3y ago
    Yes I agree on this one. I reposted it because I thought this could be quite interesting for the hn crowd. On the 4th time it got more than 200 comments. Since then I did not repost it again.
    - dfc 3y ago
      Would you have posted it again if the fourth post did not receive 200 comments?

philshem 3y ago

> …there is a search function on the bottom of every single YC page Weird, in all seriousness, I never noticed.

frognumber 3y ago

I don't mind the repost. It's doing good work. It's good to be reminded of it, and it's a slightly different thing each time. I'll buy it when it's ready for prime time. The founder reads this. Founder: What's held me back from buying this is a lack of github links and instructions. EVERY place you say "open source" should link to the repo. The repo should have CLEAR instructions for how to hack this. There's a lot of copy like "We provide detailed instructions and videos" but NO hyperlink to said detailed instructions or videos. Any place you mention specs should link to ACTUAL specs. What's your BOM? What microcontroller are you using? Do I rewrite the firmware in Python? Rust? MakeCode? Etc. Those are the tires I want to kick. If my child can program this in MakeCode and it's designed for tinkering, it's a no-brainer. If it's on github, and easy to set up to work from my desktop, it's reasonable. If it involves setting up docker containers and proprietary environments for hacking C code, it's not as obvious a buy. If I can't figure out how to get started in 30 seconds, I assume it's the last one. I have a lot of projects around the house I wish I'd done, and I'm not buying more until a few of those finish. Also, I will never pay for your service. The whole point of open everything is I control my data. The other piece I'd like is a dirt-cheap set of temperature / humidity tools. I bought an 8-channel weather station, so I can monitor temperature indoors and in each room. I'd love to switch to something more open. Again, a lot of this comes down to how easy it is to get started. If I can make dashboards in 5 minutes with numpy / plotly / pylab / etc., I'm delighted. If I can't, but it's not bad, I'm grumpier. etc. So in conclusion, I'd do user studies and think-aloud protocols with customers.

ahaucnx 3y ago
Thanks, this is great feedback and we definitely lack these links in that new copy. I will add them soon. In the meantime: Build instructions: https://www.airgradient.com/open-airgradient/instructions/diy-open-air-presoldered-v11/ https://www.airgradient.com/open-airgradient/instructions/di... BoM, schematics etc: https://www.airgradient.com/open-airgradient/instructions/diy-open-air-documentation-v11/ https://www.airgradient.com/open-airgradient/instructions/di...
ted_dunning 3y ago
You sound like me. The supplier answers all your questions on their website (and as you can see, the founder is taking your suggestions) Also, their software is just as hackable as you seem to want. I was able to create my own dashboard in a very short time using numpy and plotly. I query my archive using duckdb.

declan_roberts 3y ago

I don’t understand, is this a problem? There’s nothing new under the sun.