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I would 100% use iOS if I preferred to keep a stock OS and needed those apps. I just don't need that in a phone and am totally fine with the limitations of a d

I would 100% use iOS if I preferred to keep a stock OS and needed those apps. I just don't need that in a phone and am totally fine with the limitations of a degoogled device. I don't recommend that for most people. I was simply responding to a question of what device to consider with regards to privacy/security. I even tried to include caveats that it isn't right for everyone and had real tradeoffs.

danaris 3y ago
You were specifically asked what you would recommend to someone looking for a new phone, and you said a degoogled phone. Now you say you don't recommend that for most people? Which is it?
- flagrant_taco 3y ago
  > If security is a concern, getting a newer Pixel and installing GrapheneOS is your best bet. It's still not perfect and nothing beats just not having a cell phone, but that's a choice very few are okay with today. > The trick with GrapheneOS, or any privacy setup, is that it requires attention to stay reasonably secure. The OS won't matter if you enable Google services and install apps that track and sell all your data. Not sure how I could have been more clear here, I literally started by saying "if security is a concern". I stand by that, if security is a concern I would not use an iPhone or stock Android. I also stand by the assumption that for most people security isn't a concern. So yes, I wouldn't recommend graphene for most people but I would recommend it to anyone both concerned about security and willing to sacrifice some functionality and convenience (both caveats in my original post). You make it sound as though I changed my recommendation or story half way through. If that's your opinion, please do me a favor and point out specifically where I walked it back or contradicted myself.