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Funny that he complains about the 5.75$ per month the electricity company charges. You still used the grid, so how are they going to maintain it? How to pay the

Funny that he complains about the 5.75$ per month the electricity company charges. You still used the grid, so how are they going to maintain it? How to pay the guy who fixes the power lines in your street? This is actually the way it should be, and obviously not the way it's done here in Germany. We don't have net metering "because you'd be using the public power grid as your private battery then". I already pay 15€ every month as base fee, and it's not like the power grid is wearing down like a tire if you use it more. (Yes, technically it does, but practically negligible). Also if there would be more power produced in my section of the grid than gets consumed, I simply couldn't push any power back into the grid, so it's not like I'd get paid for producing power that nobody is consuming. But no, not in Germany... current prices for consuming is around 30-40ct per kWh, while you only get payed around 6-10ct per kWh depending on when you got your system installed. And that only applies to bigger setups on your roof, the smaller ones you can mount on your balcony for example, you get nothing. Energiewende made in Germany.

sokoloff 3y ago
Presumably, the smaller ones you mount on your balcony end up paying you the full retail rate for electricity you generated and consumed locally and that the grid never even knew about, right?
- iforgotpassword 3y ago
  Theoretically yes, but that requires you have an old meter. Anything installed since ~2010 is either digital or at least has a mechanical blockage that stops it from running backwards. I think there is even a plan to update every single household to a digital one in the next few years
  - sokoloff 3y ago
    A small balcony unit is unlikely to surpass the electricity demand of the household. If it doesn't, your meter would never be "asked" to run backwards.
    - iforgotpassword 3y ago
      Mine often does as I'm not at home during peak hours. Around 1pm I get about 200W currently and the only things running is my router and a tiny home server, and occasionally the fridge kicks in at about 100W. I could have installed about twice as many panels, but why should I? I already schedule my washing machine to run around that time, but that's like once a week, and the dish washer every two to three days.

sokoloff 3y ago

Presumably, the smaller ones you mount on your balcony end up paying you the full retail rate for electricity you generated and consumed locally and that the grid never even knew about, right?

iforgotpassword 3y ago
Theoretically yes, but that requires you have an old meter. Anything installed since ~2010 is either digital or at least has a mechanical blockage that stops it from running backwards. I think there is even a plan to update every single household to a digital one in the next few years
- sokoloff 3y ago
  A small balcony unit is unlikely to surpass the electricity demand of the household. If it doesn't, your meter would never be "asked" to run backwards.
  - iforgotpassword 3y ago
    Mine often does as I'm not at home during peak hours. Around 1pm I get about 200W currently and the only things running is my router and a tiny home server, and occasionally the fridge kicks in at about 100W. I could have installed about twice as many panels, but why should I? I already schedule my washing machine to run around that time, but that's like once a week, and the dish washer every two to three days.