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"Users pay a fee in NYM to send their data through the mixnet. By pledging an initial bond of NYM, anyone can run a mix node." Crypto is completely needless in

"Users pay a fee in NYM to send their data through the mixnet. By pledging an initial bond of NYM, anyone can run a mix node." Crypto is completely needless in this scenario. If you're mixing traffic, you've no need for pseudonymous payments, and creating yet another random crypto means the "reward" for running infrastructure -- only able to be potentially gained once you'e pledged your initial bond, mind you -- is also tied into something that has no real-world value. Tor works without crypto BS, or needing excuses to say why it's "better" than useless number-crunching. If your only incentive to decentralizing the network is the currrenly-meaningless "economic" reward, you're going about the whole thing wrong -- some "NYM" neocoin is of little value to someone who has their own infrastructure costs running a VPS for the node (once you've set up your NYM wallet first, of course) The focus right now is the crypto push, and - by their own admission - not optimizing the throughput, which means node operators face higher costs for less reward.

TylerE 3y ago
And also acts as a vector for de-anonymizing.
aredox 3y ago
Of course the "currency" is useful - it's a way to make people share bandwith and engage in mixing as much as they use the network itself. Almost all torrent websites now require that you create an account and thar you keep a ratio between seeding and downloading above a certain value. Is that a useless rule? Is the ratio a "currency" (especially when many of those websites let you buy a ratio improvement)? How would you do that in an anonymous way?
- 0ct4via 3y ago
  Citation needed on the "almost all" claim, or you're just making things up. Additionally, there's a massive difference between members-only trackers having agreed ratios, and general-access "torrent websites" like TPB which don't have any of what you say, much less have such ridiculousness as "rules". I get you love this, but nothing you've said actually disproves any of my points, you've just made things up in a transparent (and woefully incorrect) attempt to justify it.
  - aredox 3y ago
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- Ms-J 3y ago
  Most of the torrent sites I use, such as TBP and Limetorrents don't require an account or certain ratio at all.

TylerE 3y ago

And also acts as a vector for de-anonymizing.

aredox 3y ago

Of course the "currency" is useful - it's a way to make people share bandwith and engage in mixing as much as they use the network itself. Almost all torrent websites now require that you create an account and thar you keep a ratio between seeding and downloading above a certain value. Is that a useless rule? Is the ratio a "currency" (especially when many of those websites let you buy a ratio improvement)? How would you do that in an anonymous way?

0ct4via 3y ago
Citation needed on the "almost all" claim, or you're just making things up. Additionally, there's a massive difference between members-only trackers having agreed ratios, and general-access "torrent websites" like TPB which don't have any of what you say, much less have such ridiculousness as "rules". I get you love this, but nothing you've said actually disproves any of my points, you've just made things up in a transparent (and woefully incorrect) attempt to justify it.
- aredox 3y ago
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Ms-J 3y ago
Most of the torrent sites I use, such as TBP and Limetorrents don't require an account or certain ratio at all.