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Exactly, pragmatic and effective while preserving Japanese culture. I would add qualifications that the family must be a nuclear family that is otherwise not on

Exactly, pragmatic and effective while preserving Japanese culture. I would add qualifications that the family must be a nuclear family that is otherwise not on public assistance. Just give them huge tax breaks for having 4+ kids. The trend would reverse in 9 months.

xyzzy4747 3y ago
I disagree about the public assistance part especially for a country like Japan. I'm not sure if anyone cares about this anymore, but ethnically Japanese people will become nearly extinct if they don't make some radical changes. They should massively incentivize people - even financially poor Japanese - to have kids. Just because someone has a career in e.g. a Japanese bank moving spreadsheets around doesn't mean they should be favored.
A_D_E_P_T 3y ago
> Just give them huge tax breaks for having 4+ kids. The trend would reverse in 9 months. Hungary has already tried this and it doesn't work. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_policy_in_Hungary https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_policy_in_Hungary > "The Second Orbán Government made saving the nation from the demographic abyss a key aspect and therefore has introduced generous breaks for large families and greatly increased social benefits for all families. Those with three or more children pay virtually no taxes." S.Korea is trying regular cash payouts: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/4/12/south-korea-splashes-the-cash-in-scramble-to-fix-fertility-crisis https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/4/12/south-korea-splashe... Evidently much more is required. Or it could be that the problem isn't solely financial. In heavily urbanized countries, most people apparently prefer easy modern entertainments to the rigors and stresses of parenting.
- hellisothers 3y ago
  Those amounts are pitiful, S Korea is giving a total of $10k to have a kid? Even a $100k would barely scratch the surface in a high COL area where a partner is dropping a six figure salary or paying $40k/yr for daycare. If they’re serious then make the incentives serious, and scale.

xyzzy4747 3y ago

I disagree about the public assistance part especially for a country like Japan. I'm not sure if anyone cares about this anymore, but ethnically Japanese people will become nearly extinct if they don't make some radical changes. They should massively incentivize people - even financially poor Japanese - to have kids. Just because someone has a career in e.g. a Japanese bank moving spreadsheets around doesn't mean they should be favored.

A_D_E_P_T 3y ago

> Just give them huge tax breaks for having 4+ kids. The trend would reverse in 9 months. Hungary has already tried this and it doesn't work. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_policy_in_Hungary https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_policy_in_Hungary > "The Second Orbán Government made saving the nation from the demographic abyss a key aspect and therefore has introduced generous breaks for large families and greatly increased social benefits for all families. Those with three or more children pay virtually no taxes." S.Korea is trying regular cash payouts: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/4/12/south-korea-splashes-the-cash-in-scramble-to-fix-fertility-crisis https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/4/12/south-korea-splashe... Evidently much more is required. Or it could be that the problem isn't solely financial. In heavily urbanized countries, most people apparently prefer easy modern entertainments to the rigors and stresses of parenting.

hellisothers 3y ago
Those amounts are pitiful, S Korea is giving a total of $10k to have a kid? Even a $100k would barely scratch the surface in a high COL area where a partner is dropping a six figure salary or paying $40k/yr for daycare. If they’re serious then make the incentives serious, and scale.