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Whatever disaster you might want to impose on the world to solve the problem--and decarbonization without fusion power would be a terrific disaster--will be as

Whatever disaster you might want to impose on the world to solve the problem--and decarbonization without fusion power would be a terrific disaster--will be as bad as the sea levels rising a few feet. Actually, much worse. The real solution, of course, is population control. And step one in population control is shutting down immigration. Very few politicians want that, and basically none on the left. So it won't happen. They will continue demanding that the government seize control of the means of production and distribution, and not actually fix anything.

danny_codes 3y ago
How does preventing immigration effect the global population?
- mynameishere 3y ago
  Countries with high birth rates will hit their local maximum carrying capacity. Immigration allows it to "blow off". As a past example, there are about 100 million people of Irish descent in the world. This is many more than there would be had they been limited to Ireland itself, when Ireland's birth rate was very high.
  - danny_codes 3y ago
    I assume you are white and live in America. Seems a smidge hypocritical. Also this doesn't make much sense. We live in a globalized world. Singapore, for example, gets 80% of its food from abroad. Their "carrying capacity" is not particularly limited, except for literal space. For a country-sized country, space is functionally unlimited.
myshpa 3y ago
> step one in population control is shutting down immigration Yes, overconsume so much, that it heats the entire planet. Live in an area where is isn't as bad as elsewhere. Build walls around borders to keep those suckers threatened with loss of livelihood to keep them our of our utopia. Bad news, buddy. Once those hundreds of millions/billions start moving, no walls are gonna stop them. https://i.imgur.com/LaEFQmV.png https://i.imgur.com/LaEFQmV.png The relevant overpopulation is the overpopulation of rich people (curable by removal of wealth).

danny_codes 3y ago

How does preventing immigration effect the global population?

mynameishere 3y ago
Countries with high birth rates will hit their local maximum carrying capacity. Immigration allows it to "blow off". As a past example, there are about 100 million people of Irish descent in the world. This is many more than there would be had they been limited to Ireland itself, when Ireland's birth rate was very high.
- danny_codes 3y ago
  I assume you are white and live in America. Seems a smidge hypocritical. Also this doesn't make much sense. We live in a globalized world. Singapore, for example, gets 80% of its food from abroad. Their "carrying capacity" is not particularly limited, except for literal space. For a country-sized country, space is functionally unlimited.

myshpa 3y ago

> step one in population control is shutting down immigration Yes, overconsume so much, that it heats the entire planet. Live in an area where is isn't as bad as elsewhere. Build walls around borders to keep those suckers threatened with loss of livelihood to keep them our of our utopia. Bad news, buddy. Once those hundreds of millions/billions start moving, no walls are gonna stop them. https://i.imgur.com/LaEFQmV.png https://i.imgur.com/LaEFQmV.png The relevant overpopulation is the overpopulation of rich people (curable by removal of wealth).