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To nobody's surprise: the U.S. does not actually have any protection for journalism, no protections for whistleblowers; if you embarrass them (worse in the case

To nobody's surprise: the U.S. does not actually have any protection for journalism, no protections for whistleblowers; if you embarrass them (worse in the case of WikiLeaks, being time and time again) they will get back at you to save any face. There is no reason to still go after Assange other than to make an example out of him.

localplume 3y ago
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alphabetting 3y ago
100%. I've never seen a journalist embarrass the US government and get away with it. That's why there hasn't been any negative coverage of Biden and Trump got a total pass from the media.
- xtian 3y ago
  Biden and Trump are not the empire.
- theironhammer 3y ago
  Panama Papers? Although that's about financial shenanigans rather than Political. But I still think the leaker was wise to remain anonymous.
- thefurdrake 3y ago
  > there hasn't been any negative coverage of Biden and Trump got a total pass from the media. Are you from the Berenstein alternate reality? Do we have access to entirely-separate streams of media? No president in the united states has EVER avoided negative media coverage.
  - mbg721 3y ago
    I would be greatly entertained by a world with zero negative coverage of Trump, because I assume we would also get the polar opposite of reality elsewhere in life. What's next, Celibate Clinton? Isolationist W? Communist Ford?
    - thefurdrake 3y ago
      Imagine if they banned ad hominem attacks against the president. You can talk shit about the things they do or how terrible their policies are, but the moment you make it personal, it's jailtime. What a weird reality to consider.
      - mbg721 3y ago
        Is this an argument about English libel laws?
        thefurdrake 3y ago
        ... It is not, but now I am curious. Is that a thing in the Britzone?
        catboybotnet 3y ago
        Yes, from my memory of when a popular fantasy writer was in the mainstream discourse for a while, anybody that even said something remotely negative to her and advertised their location as in the U.K. immediately shut up and apologised after likely receiving legal threats. No anti-SLAPP regulation, either. I believe it's because they can sue for damages related to the tarnishing of their image, though that may just be universal.
e2le 3y ago
They may even plot to assassinate you! https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8041597/US-plotted-kill-Julian-Assange-make-look-like-accident.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8041597/US-plotted-...
- catboybotnet 3y ago
  Many such cases!

localplume 3y ago

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alphabetting 3y ago

100%. I've never seen a journalist embarrass the US government and get away with it. That's why there hasn't been any negative coverage of Biden and Trump got a total pass from the media.

xtian 3y ago
Biden and Trump are not the empire.
theironhammer 3y ago
Panama Papers? Although that's about financial shenanigans rather than Political. But I still think the leaker was wise to remain anonymous.
thefurdrake 3y ago
> there hasn't been any negative coverage of Biden and Trump got a total pass from the media. Are you from the Berenstein alternate reality? Do we have access to entirely-separate streams of media? No president in the united states has EVER avoided negative media coverage.
- mbg721 3y ago
  I would be greatly entertained by a world with zero negative coverage of Trump, because I assume we would also get the polar opposite of reality elsewhere in life. What's next, Celibate Clinton? Isolationist W? Communist Ford?
  - thefurdrake 3y ago
    Imagine if they banned ad hominem attacks against the president. You can talk shit about the things they do or how terrible their policies are, but the moment you make it personal, it's jailtime. What a weird reality to consider.
    - mbg721 3y ago
      Is this an argument about English libel laws?
      - thefurdrake 3y ago
        ... It is not, but now I am curious. Is that a thing in the Britzone?
        catboybotnet 3y ago
        Yes, from my memory of when a popular fantasy writer was in the mainstream discourse for a while, anybody that even said something remotely negative to her and advertised their location as in the U.K. immediately shut up and apologised after likely receiving legal threats. No anti-SLAPP regulation, either. I believe it's because they can sue for damages related to the tarnishing of their image, though that may just be universal.

e2le 3y ago

They may even plot to assassinate you! https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8041597/US-plotted-kill-Julian-Assange-make-look-like-accident.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8041597/US-plotted-...

catboybotnet 3y ago
Many such cases!