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I think the biggest problem is the Mastodon devs (and community's) complete aversion to doing anything other than blaming the user for any flaws. Onboarding di

I think the biggest problem is the Mastodon devs (and community's) complete aversion to doing anything other than blaming the user for any flaws. Onboarding didn't make sense? Well that's just because you're stupid, you have email don't you? Difficulty discovering people to follow? Well that's just because you're using it wrong and if you were good at it you'd already know who to follow.

TillE 3y ago
The "Mastodon devs" is still basically just Eugen, or just him making decisions anyway. And he's specifically talked about the need to improve onboarding. He certainly doesn't consider it a non-issue.
goku12 3y ago
> Difficulty discovering people to follow? Well that's just because you're using it wrong and if you were good at it you'd already know who to follow. Well - I'm not blaming the user, but that's how it's on any federated service. People don't seem to have the same complaints about email or matrix. While it's possible to create a global index of all Mastodon users, I personally feel that it is best enjoyed without it. I have a very satisfying personal feed on Mastodon. There are personal acquaintances whose address I received directly from them - like how email addresses are exchanged traditionally. Some addresses were collected from webpages I'm interested in. All the rest are people whose comments were boosted by others and caught my eye. All the above, together with whatever algorithm Mastodon uses seem to give me a much more interesting and less addictive experience than the traditional social media. Mastodon doesn't hand hold you in creating a feed. It does need a bit of effort. However, the result is high quality.
- warning26 3y ago
  > Well - I'm not blaming the user, but that's how it's on any federated service. There it is! It’s absolutely fixable, and pretending it’s some defect inherent to federation is just lazy. If you want to see federated content discovery done right, I’d say the best right now is Lemmy — it’s trivial to see all posts across all instances, sorted by votes, or even other algorithms.

TillE 3y ago

The "Mastodon devs" is still basically just Eugen, or just him making decisions anyway. And he's specifically talked about the need to improve onboarding. He certainly doesn't consider it a non-issue.

goku12 3y ago

> Difficulty discovering people to follow? Well that's just because you're using it wrong and if you were good at it you'd already know who to follow. Well - I'm not blaming the user, but that's how it's on any federated service. People don't seem to have the same complaints about email or matrix. While it's possible to create a global index of all Mastodon users, I personally feel that it is best enjoyed without it. I have a very satisfying personal feed on Mastodon. There are personal acquaintances whose address I received directly from them - like how email addresses are exchanged traditionally. Some addresses were collected from webpages I'm interested in. All the rest are people whose comments were boosted by others and caught my eye. All the above, together with whatever algorithm Mastodon uses seem to give me a much more interesting and less addictive experience than the traditional social media. Mastodon doesn't hand hold you in creating a feed. It does need a bit of effort. However, the result is high quality.

warning26 3y ago
> Well - I'm not blaming the user, but that's how it's on any federated service. There it is! It’s absolutely fixable, and pretending it’s some defect inherent to federation is just lazy. If you want to see federated content discovery done right, I’d say the best right now is Lemmy — it’s trivial to see all posts across all instances, sorted by votes, or even other algorithms.