> only be done without adult supervision. I disagree. It's best done with adult supervision, by adults who either at least allow play, if not are still playful

> only be done without adult supervision. I disagree. It's best done with adult supervision, by adults who either at least allow play, if not are still playful themselves. Yes teens do need some time without adults for a sliver of contexts, but the vast majority of learning is optimized when having the availability of at least 2 responsible adults who aid when called on but do not impose. Lots of our ideas about teenagers, what kids can and cannot do etc are very recent and very contrary to history's proof that they absolutely can