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Is this even enforceable? How can the UK government determine whether encrypted traffic going to/from UK IPs emanates from a messaging service as opposed to any

by ssl232 3y ago

Is this even enforceable? How can the UK government determine whether encrypted traffic going to/from UK IPs emanates from a messaging service as opposed to any other service?

jamesdwilson 3y ago
"Who denounced you?" said Winston. "It was my little daughter," said Parsons with a sort of doleful pride. "She saw the installed encryption programs, and nipped off to the patrols the very next day. Pretty smart for a nipper of seven, eh? I don't bear her any grudge for it. In fact, I'm proud of her. It shows I brought her up in the right spirit, anyway."
BLKNSLVR 3y ago
This becomes a separate problem of against whom they choose to enforce it. Defending yourself legally, no matter whether there's a lot or a little evidence, is an expensive, stressful, drawn out exercise. Sometimes the accusation is the punishment.
darkclouds 3y ago
>Is this even enforceable? Not really, people have been talking in code for millennia. I wouldnt be surprised if a car company like Mercedes or Volkswagen could use their vehicles like swarm drones, relaying information between them when passing on the road, which could get data out of the UK using the cross channel ferries and eurotunnel. There's way too much movement of people and stuff inorder to secure anything really. Even the new Apple headset can read the iris of the eye to get subconscious data out of the user when exposed to AV data, and the users wont even know they are giving out this data. Privacy? We dont have any! Clandestine communications in cyber-denied environments Numbers stations and radio in the 21st century https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/18335330.2023.2209578 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/18335330.2023.2... Number Stations https://www.youtube.com/@RingwayManchester https://www.youtube.com/@RingwayManchester
nitwit005 3y ago
> Is this even enforceable? They'll consider it enforced if all the major companies comply. In terms of actually having the criminals using software that complies with the law, absolutely not. Making your own program that doesn't comply isn't much of a challenge.

by ssl232 3y ago

Is this even enforceable? How can the UK government determine whether encrypted traffic going to/from UK IPs emanates from a messaging service as opposed to any other service?

jamesdwilson 3y ago

"Who denounced you?" said Winston. "It was my little daughter," said Parsons with a sort of doleful pride. "She saw the installed encryption programs, and nipped off to the patrols the very next day. Pretty smart for a nipper of seven, eh? I don't bear her any grudge for it. In fact, I'm proud of her. It shows I brought her up in the right spirit, anyway."

BLKNSLVR 3y ago

This becomes a separate problem of against whom they choose to enforce it. Defending yourself legally, no matter whether there's a lot or a little evidence, is an expensive, stressful, drawn out exercise. Sometimes the accusation is the punishment.

darkclouds 3y ago

>Is this even enforceable? Not really, people have been talking in code for millennia. I wouldnt be surprised if a car company like Mercedes or Volkswagen could use their vehicles like swarm drones, relaying information between them when passing on the road, which could get data out of the UK using the cross channel ferries and eurotunnel. There's way too much movement of people and stuff inorder to secure anything really. Even the new Apple headset can read the iris of the eye to get subconscious data out of the user when exposed to AV data, and the users wont even know they are giving out this data. Privacy? We dont have any! Clandestine communications in cyber-denied environments Numbers stations and radio in the 21st century https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/18335330.2023.2209578 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/18335330.2023.2... Number Stations https://www.youtube.com/@RingwayManchester https://www.youtube.com/@RingwayManchester

nitwit005 3y ago

> Is this even enforceable? They'll consider it enforced if all the major companies comply. In terms of actually having the criminals using software that complies with the law, absolutely not. Making your own program that doesn't comply isn't much of a challenge.