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In Brazil free phone calls would* allow criminals to manage crime from prison, through family. * would = do; prisoners have easy access to cellphones, etc. Ver

In Brazil free phone calls would* allow criminals to manage crime from prison, through family. * would = do; prisoners have easy access to cellphones, etc. Very common are scam calls originating from prisons. Classic real life meme is one criminal calling one person who happened to also be in another prison.

dkural 3y ago
It could be free calls from prison landlines, which can also be listened to fully for any criminal content.
- pie420 3y ago
  So we have to hire trained, educated employees capable of detecting code speak and monitor every single phone conversation? Why are people so opposed to giving adults a time out with no phones, no calls, no distractions, just a book, rehabilitation classes, and job training. is it really that hard to see adult criminals as children who have misbehaved and need to be taught how to function in society? If parents punish a child, nobody blinks an eye, and even probably praises good parenting. If we punish delinquents and teach them how to operate in our hyper-complex society, it's problematic.
  - xboxnolifes 3y ago
    > Why are people so opposed to giving adults a time out with no phones, no calls, no distractions, just a book, rehabilitation classes, and job training. I don't think anybody is? Where do we find such a magical place?
    - bratgpttamer 3y ago
      Classes cost money. Books make no money. Charging by the minute to read books makes money. https://americanlibrariesmagazine.org/blogs/the-scoop/prisoners-pay-to-read-prison-tablets/ https://americanlibrariesmagazine.org/blogs/the-scoop/prison...
mickelsen 3y ago
Coming from LatAm as well, and wanting dangerous criminals punished as much as the next populist politician promises to do, so that we get closer to a less lenient and excessively-tolerant system, I can see where you are coming from and I agree that their set of problems are different than ours. Especially here in Chile where recent mass immigration waves have pretty much spiked violent crimes in ways that were only common in central america, so it absolutely caught the country unprepared, where petty theft is pretty much given a slap on the wrist so as to avoid prison, even with multiple reincidences. Even then, this would be a positive development, as calls could be completely monitored from landlines I guess, rather than the smuggled phones that make it to prison through public defenders and drops all the time, so it could actually be better as a way to prompt more frequent inspection and at least here, allowing prisons to jam mobile signal, which is something that's been proposed for years but even guards have protested against, as they rely on radio for internal comms (I'm not sure about the specifics)

dkural 3y ago

It could be free calls from prison landlines, which can also be listened to fully for any criminal content.

pie420 3y ago
So we have to hire trained, educated employees capable of detecting code speak and monitor every single phone conversation? Why are people so opposed to giving adults a time out with no phones, no calls, no distractions, just a book, rehabilitation classes, and job training. is it really that hard to see adult criminals as children who have misbehaved and need to be taught how to function in society? If parents punish a child, nobody blinks an eye, and even probably praises good parenting. If we punish delinquents and teach them how to operate in our hyper-complex society, it's problematic.
- xboxnolifes 3y ago
  > Why are people so opposed to giving adults a time out with no phones, no calls, no distractions, just a book, rehabilitation classes, and job training. I don't think anybody is? Where do we find such a magical place?
  - bratgpttamer 3y ago
    Classes cost money. Books make no money. Charging by the minute to read books makes money. https://americanlibrariesmagazine.org/blogs/the-scoop/prisoners-pay-to-read-prison-tablets/ https://americanlibrariesmagazine.org/blogs/the-scoop/prison...

mickelsen 3y ago

Coming from LatAm as well, and wanting dangerous criminals punished as much as the next populist politician promises to do, so that we get closer to a less lenient and excessively-tolerant system, I can see where you are coming from and I agree that their set of problems are different than ours. Especially here in Chile where recent mass immigration waves have pretty much spiked violent crimes in ways that were only common in central america, so it absolutely caught the country unprepared, where petty theft is pretty much given a slap on the wrist so as to avoid prison, even with multiple reincidences. Even then, this would be a positive development, as calls could be completely monitored from landlines I guess, rather than the smuggled phones that make it to prison through public defenders and drops all the time, so it could actually be better as a way to prompt more frequent inspection and at least here, allowing prisons to jam mobile signal, which is something that's been proposed for years but even guards have protested against, as they rely on radio for internal comms (I'm not sure about the specifics)