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Ask HN: Why do I lose internet connection everytime my neighbors Tesla comes in?

10 points by anon115 3y ago

its annoying.

aurizon 3y ago
Same ISP, fiber/wired connection, WiFi?
- anon115 3y ago
  nope
pwmtr 3y ago
It seems it is common problem; https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaLounge/comments/11cx7kh/my_internet_dies_when_the_tesla_pulls_in_or_out/ https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaLounge/comments/11cx7kh/my_int... Here are two recommendations from that thread; > Do you have the ability to connect a computer to your network via Ethernet? Even if it’s temporary, that’s what I would do to troubleshoot. > Let’s see if it’s an internet problem or a WiFi problem: > Connect your computer to Ethernet straight into your router (or switch). > Open command line on windows or terminal on a Mac. On windows type: ping 8.8.8.8 -t then press enter. On a Mac: ping 8.8.8.8 then press enter. You’ll get something that has a number followed by ms that creates a new line every second. That’s how many milliseconds it takes to get a packet of data to Google (8.8.8.8) and back. > move the car > If the number next to the ms changes dramatically when the car moves then we know that either the car is pushing a lot of data over your network or the car is causing a physical anomaly like moving a broken cable, which is unlikely. > If the number doesn’t change then we know the car is doing something to interfere with just the wireless network which is also unlikely. > If the number changes dramatically, forgetting the network in the car will help us troubleshoot. Once the car is disconnected from the network, run the ping command again. If you move the car and the ms on that ping test doesn’t change then we know the car is moving a lot of data when it’s coming/going. > If it does change without the car being connected to the network then it may be a physical problem with the connection. Again, this isn’t likely but can happen. My internet used to stop working when it rained, for instance. > I suspect the car is connecting to Wi-Fi when it wakes up to leave or gets within range while returning. I’m going to assume when you run the ping test you’ll see the ms (also know as latency) increase because the car is taking a chunk of bandwidth. It’s unlikely the car is able to interfere with the Wi-Fi radios in your home and it’s unlikely it’s causing a physical problem when moving in your driveway (like irritating a loose connection). and... > This can happen when your internet is a slow connection type (for example ADSL), and the Tesla knows your WIFI password. > Once it detects your WIFI, it will connect and push lots of data to the internet. It will clog up your upload bandwidth, degrading the service quality for everyone. The same thing can happen with other WIFI devices too, for example an iPhone eager to sync fresh photos to the cloud. > To confirm, change your WIFI password temporarily and see how the problem disappears. > To solve it, either get a faster internet connection, one with upload bandwidth > WIFI bandwith. Or get a WIFI router that lets you throttle clients. Or check your existing router for a feature called "QoS" (Quality of Service). Theoretically QoS can solve it, but most implementations are lacking.
- anon115 3y ago
  can i emp his car to cause inconvenience?
- anon115 3y ago
  ignore the emp thing, im going to do that command line thing and upload it on utube and when he gets back from work
- anon115 3y ago
  this is what im getting right now with his stupid car parked outside. >>Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=115 >>again idk how these internet cars work >>currently :5:05PM right meow
tamimio 3y ago
He should be charged with battery. In all seriousness, must be some sort of interference, but without further details it’s hard to tell, are you on wifi? The timing of it happening, is it as soon as tesla arrives, garage door opens, few seconds after they arrive? and so on.
- anon115 3y ago
  as soon as his car approached the driveway >>my router is sorta close to the window like 7 to 8 feet away from the driveway?!?!?? >>wre not sharing internets >> i have spectrum internet >> idk how a tesla works do they have their routers in the car?
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anon115 3y ago
+++ my computer is on ethernet connection >> im using spectrum >>as soon as his tesla comes in the driveway my internet just goes out >> the lights on the router are still on but i hav no connection >> no his wifi is not connected to mine!! >:( if it was i would very angry >>sometimes it doesnt disconnect fully but its lags the hell out of my games and my ping skyrockets i think it reached 2,000 ping lmaooo and goes up high unlike telon husks rockets. but seriously tho wtfff!! ><> i try everything i might call my isp to fix this shit >> maybe i overload his tesla and disconnect his shit and see how he feels when
- QuarterReptile 3y ago
  Is it possible that your neighbor has a bandwidth plan that's irresponsibly provisioned within your area? From what I understand, those cars do enormous amounts of data collection, so it may be that it's floding the ISP's network within your node (pardon my ignorance of industry terminology, but the point is that the ISP sells more bandwidth than they actually have and then count on probability and typical usage patterns to time-share.) An anecdote that might give you some inspiration (maybe?): when I came home from the hospital from the birth of my first child, the network was down because my in-laws let a tech from the cable company in to fiddle with things. Apparently the TV signal for the whole block was messed up for March Madness because of something with all the coax and splitters a former owner had installed.
nosmokewhereiam 3y ago
If it was the same time each day, I'd say it was dhcp renewing.
TheLoafOfBread 3y ago
Report the neighbors to FCC for Jamming, let him pay fine and if he complains, tell him to sue Tesla. https://www.fcc.gov/general/jammer-enforcement https://www.fcc.gov/general/jammer-enforcement
anon115 3y ago
for any1 checking in I havent been able to test it yet because i got my motherboard and ram replaced. so i had yet to check would be nice if there was some program logging this for me automatigically
anon115 3y ago
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- anon115 3y ago
  i mean i didnt disconnect so...
anon115 3y ago
2:52pm 8/5/23p Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=19ms TTL=57 Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=14ms TTL=57 Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=16ms TTL=57 Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=19ms TTL=57 Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=57 Request timed out. Request timed out. Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=1166ms TTL=57 Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=263ms TTL=57 Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=43ms TTL=57 Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=57 Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=27ms TTL=57 Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=57 Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=21ms TTL=57 his tesla not present when this happened

10 points by anon115 3y ago

its annoying.

aurizon 3y ago

Same ISP, fiber/wired connection, WiFi?

anon115 3y ago
nope

pwmtr 3y ago

It seems it is common problem; https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaLounge/comments/11cx7kh/my_internet_dies_when_the_tesla_pulls_in_or_out/ https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaLounge/comments/11cx7kh/my_int... Here are two recommendations from that thread; > Do you have the ability to connect a computer to your network via Ethernet? Even if it’s temporary, that’s what I would do to troubleshoot. > Let’s see if it’s an internet problem or a WiFi problem: > Connect your computer to Ethernet straight into your router (or switch). > Open command line on windows or terminal on a Mac. On windows type: ping 8.8.8.8 -t then press enter. On a Mac: ping 8.8.8.8 then press enter. You’ll get something that has a number followed by ms that creates a new line every second. That’s how many milliseconds it takes to get a packet of data to Google (8.8.8.8) and back. > move the car > If the number next to the ms changes dramatically when the car moves then we know that either the car is pushing a lot of data over your network or the car is causing a physical anomaly like moving a broken cable, which is unlikely. > If the number doesn’t change then we know the car is doing something to interfere with just the wireless network which is also unlikely. > If the number changes dramatically, forgetting the network in the car will help us troubleshoot. Once the car is disconnected from the network, run the ping command again. If you move the car and the ms on that ping test doesn’t change then we know the car is moving a lot of data when it’s coming/going. > If it does change without the car being connected to the network then it may be a physical problem with the connection. Again, this isn’t likely but can happen. My internet used to stop working when it rained, for instance. > I suspect the car is connecting to Wi-Fi when it wakes up to leave or gets within range while returning. I’m going to assume when you run the ping test you’ll see the ms (also know as latency) increase because the car is taking a chunk of bandwidth. It’s unlikely the car is able to interfere with the Wi-Fi radios in your home and it’s unlikely it’s causing a physical problem when moving in your driveway (like irritating a loose connection). and... > This can happen when your internet is a slow connection type (for example ADSL), and the Tesla knows your WIFI password. > Once it detects your WIFI, it will connect and push lots of data to the internet. It will clog up your upload bandwidth, degrading the service quality for everyone. The same thing can happen with other WIFI devices too, for example an iPhone eager to sync fresh photos to the cloud. > To confirm, change your WIFI password temporarily and see how the problem disappears. > To solve it, either get a faster internet connection, one with upload bandwidth > WIFI bandwith. Or get a WIFI router that lets you throttle clients. Or check your existing router for a feature called "QoS" (Quality of Service). Theoretically QoS can solve it, but most implementations are lacking.

anon115 3y ago
can i emp his car to cause inconvenience?
anon115 3y ago
ignore the emp thing, im going to do that command line thing and upload it on utube and when he gets back from work
anon115 3y ago
this is what im getting right now with his stupid car parked outside. >>Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=115 >>again idk how these internet cars work >>currently :5:05PM right meow

tamimio 3y ago

He should be charged with battery. In all seriousness, must be some sort of interference, but without further details it’s hard to tell, are you on wifi? The timing of it happening, is it as soon as tesla arrives, garage door opens, few seconds after they arrive? and so on.

anon115 3y ago
as soon as his car approached the driveway >>my router is sorta close to the window like 7 to 8 feet away from the driveway?!?!?? >>wre not sharing internets >> i have spectrum internet >> idk how a tesla works do they have their routers in the car?

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anon115 3y ago

+++ my computer is on ethernet connection >> im using spectrum >>as soon as his tesla comes in the driveway my internet just goes out >> the lights on the router are still on but i hav no connection >> no his wifi is not connected to mine!! >:( if it was i would very angry >>sometimes it doesnt disconnect fully but its lags the hell out of my games and my ping skyrockets i think it reached 2,000 ping lmaooo and goes up high unlike telon husks rockets. but seriously tho wtfff!! ><> i try everything i might call my isp to fix this shit >> maybe i overload his tesla and disconnect his shit and see how he feels when

QuarterReptile 3y ago
Is it possible that your neighbor has a bandwidth plan that's irresponsibly provisioned within your area? From what I understand, those cars do enormous amounts of data collection, so it may be that it's floding the ISP's network within your node (pardon my ignorance of industry terminology, but the point is that the ISP sells more bandwidth than they actually have and then count on probability and typical usage patterns to time-share.) An anecdote that might give you some inspiration (maybe?): when I came home from the hospital from the birth of my first child, the network was down because my in-laws let a tech from the cable company in to fiddle with things. Apparently the TV signal for the whole block was messed up for March Madness because of something with all the coax and splitters a former owner had installed.

nosmokewhereiam 3y ago

If it was the same time each day, I'd say it was dhcp renewing.

TheLoafOfBread 3y ago

Report the neighbors to FCC for Jamming, let him pay fine and if he complains, tell him to sue Tesla. https://www.fcc.gov/general/jammer-enforcement https://www.fcc.gov/general/jammer-enforcement

anon115 3y ago

for any1 checking in I havent been able to test it yet because i got my motherboard and ram replaced. so i had yet to check would be nice if there was some program logging this for me automatigically

anon115 3y ago

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anon115 3y ago
i mean i didnt disconnect so...

anon115 3y ago

2:52pm 8/5/23p Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=19ms TTL=57 Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=14ms TTL=57 Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=16ms TTL=57 Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=19ms TTL=57 Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=57 Request timed out. Request timed out. Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=1166ms TTL=57 Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=263ms TTL=57 Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=43ms TTL=57 Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=57 Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=27ms TTL=57 Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=57 Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=21ms TTL=57 his tesla not present when this happened