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>>lack of OEM support what does this even mean in this context? >bloatware, OEM specific UIs The problem here is calling in "ecosystem of Android", it is ma

>>lack of OEM support what does this even mean in this context? >bloatware, OEM specific UIs The problem here is calling in "ecosystem of Android", it is mainly Andriod vs Samsung. You are either in the Samsung Ecosystem (i.e Samsung UI) or in the Andriod world, Most of the other vendors, the few there are, run close to stock Andriod these days. Then of-course there is Pixel's Pure Android. Not really all that confusing, if you can not figure it out then I trust your better served by iPhone.... you likely have also given up on computers completely as windows or linux is far too complicated for you. >> confusing accessory compatibility what? >>a marketplace full of malware Yes, user freedom bad, must only have applications that Mr Tim approves.

kube-system 3y ago
> >>lack of OEM support > what does this even mean in this context? The OEM doesn't have a store in the mall that will help an elderly family member with it. The OEM stops publishing updates after the phone leaves the shelf. etc. > Most of the other vendors, the few there are, run close to stock Andriod these days. Which is a gigantic pain in the butt when you're trying to talk your mother through the settings menu over the phone to change one setting, and the OEM decided that was the one feature they wanted to move/rename/omit/customize. > if you can not figure it out then I trust your better served by iPhone.... you likely have also given up on computers completely as windows or linux is far too complicated for you. > Yes, user freedom bad, must only have applications that Mr Tim approves. That's the thing, it shouldn't take someone like me to use a phone. Phones are mass market devices that children, elderly, disabled, and uneducated people use.
- phpisthebest 3y ago
  >>Phones are mass market devices that children, elderly, disabled, and uneducated people use. I really really despise this narrative in modern society where by everyone must lower their standards, expectations, or limit themselves so we can cater to the lowest common denominator of society. This is like saying we need to limit the speed on highways to 20 because some people can not figure out how to drive at 70...
  - ghaff 3y ago
    So buy your PinePhone or whatever and let the vast majority of users have something that’s simple and reasonably standardized. I can certainly use a general purpose computer but I don’t want my phone to be complicated.
  - criddell 3y ago
    Lower our standards? I look at it in the opposite way. Apple’s accessibility features are the amazing and other manufacturers should raise their standards.

kube-system 3y ago

> >>lack of OEM support > what does this even mean in this context? The OEM doesn't have a store in the mall that will help an elderly family member with it. The OEM stops publishing updates after the phone leaves the shelf. etc. > Most of the other vendors, the few there are, run close to stock Andriod these days. Which is a gigantic pain in the butt when you're trying to talk your mother through the settings menu over the phone to change one setting, and the OEM decided that was the one feature they wanted to move/rename/omit/customize. > if you can not figure it out then I trust your better served by iPhone.... you likely have also given up on computers completely as windows or linux is far too complicated for you. > Yes, user freedom bad, must only have applications that Mr Tim approves. That's the thing, it shouldn't take someone like me to use a phone. Phones are mass market devices that children, elderly, disabled, and uneducated people use.

phpisthebest 3y ago
>>Phones are mass market devices that children, elderly, disabled, and uneducated people use. I really really despise this narrative in modern society where by everyone must lower their standards, expectations, or limit themselves so we can cater to the lowest common denominator of society. This is like saying we need to limit the speed on highways to 20 because some people can not figure out how to drive at 70...
- ghaff 3y ago
  So buy your PinePhone or whatever and let the vast majority of users have something that’s simple and reasonably standardized. I can certainly use a general purpose computer but I don’t want my phone to be complicated.
- criddell 3y ago
  Lower our standards? I look at it in the opposite way. Apple’s accessibility features are the amazing and other manufacturers should raise their standards.