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One thing I think Europe as a whole gets right (including the UK) is the approach to animal experimentation: you need a "triple license" to do it, with the inst
by azalemeth 3y ago
One thing I think Europe as a whole gets right (including the UK) is the approach to animal experimentation: you need a "triple license" to do it, with the institution, the lab/scientific project and the scientist themselves personally all separately required to be up to scratch and examined in detail. You can't just buy 700 white lab mice without this -- it's a specific criminal offence -- and in most countries the implementation of the directive is in terms of permissive acts, i.e. unless everything is exactly right, you're committing a crime and are personally liable for it.
I'm not saying it's perfect -- far from it -- but the separation of powers, the explicit independent cost-benefit exam done at the point of project licenses, and a tough and regular inspection framework do give me some confidence in what is unfortunately a necessary evil.
This thing sounds both like a pathogen breeding facility and deeply, deeply unethical.
- phendrenad2 3y agoWhile there is something to the idea that making something that's illegal more illegal will help prevent it from happening, that isn't a silver bullet. So it's entirely possible that such things are happening in the UK also.
- TheJoeMan 3y agoIt’s much simpler, the companies set up an unregulated lab in Haiti. This is classic “just pushing crime elsewhere” not reducing it.