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I think the point is that reality is a complex and messy place, and shallow platitudes don't really add much to the conversation.

pseg134 3y ago
You are right. The world is way too messy for morality and honesty.
- IX-103 3y ago
  The world is too messy for naive morality and honesty. People are too easily swayed by anecdotes or irrelevant facts. In your "moral" world of brutal honesty: the children of serial killers would never find work, people who were caught cheating on a test in kindergarten would never be allowed in positions of power, and people with non-mainstream interests would be sidelined in favor of those that people more closely identify with. Is it right to hide things from people who would use that information incorrectly and to society's detriment? I think so, and that's why I believe people should have a right to privacy.
mcpackieh 3y ago
The "shallow platitudes" cut through the BS. The government is trying to gag researchers because they want to hide their own failure. The narrative that the government is afraid of PII being revealed during a trial is straight horse shit. The courts themselves will decide what is or isn't appropriate information for a witness to share on the stand. Furthermore, am I to believe these researchers are trusted not to share student PII when doing their normal academic research, but at soon as they become witnesses against the state that trust is no longer warranted? Bullshit. If protecting PII were the motivation they would not allow researchers to access that PII and publish their findings. What they're actually doing is preventing those researchers from testifying against the state. They're not protecting students, they're protecting the state's interests.
- LexiMax 3y ago
  > The "shallow platitudes" cut through the BS. Shallow platitudes are themselves BS - populist soundbites that can be weaponized both for things you like and things you don't. There are better conversations happening elsewhere in this very comments section that don't have to lean on them as a crutch.

pseg134 3y ago

You are right. The world is way too messy for morality and honesty.

IX-103 3y ago
The world is too messy for naive morality and honesty. People are too easily swayed by anecdotes or irrelevant facts. In your "moral" world of brutal honesty: the children of serial killers would never find work, people who were caught cheating on a test in kindergarten would never be allowed in positions of power, and people with non-mainstream interests would be sidelined in favor of those that people more closely identify with. Is it right to hide things from people who would use that information incorrectly and to society's detriment? I think so, and that's why I believe people should have a right to privacy.

mcpackieh 3y ago

The "shallow platitudes" cut through the BS. The government is trying to gag researchers because they want to hide their own failure. The narrative that the government is afraid of PII being revealed during a trial is straight horse shit. The courts themselves will decide what is or isn't appropriate information for a witness to share on the stand. Furthermore, am I to believe these researchers are trusted not to share student PII when doing their normal academic research, but at soon as they become witnesses against the state that trust is no longer warranted? Bullshit. If protecting PII were the motivation they would not allow researchers to access that PII and publish their findings. What they're actually doing is preventing those researchers from testifying against the state. They're not protecting students, they're protecting the state's interests.

LexiMax 3y ago
> The "shallow platitudes" cut through the BS. Shallow platitudes are themselves BS - populist soundbites that can be weaponized both for things you like and things you don't. There are better conversations happening elsewhere in this very comments section that don't have to lean on them as a crutch.