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Desantis was doing the same thing in Florida, preventing proffesors from testifying in a voting rights case against the state. https://apnews.com/article/lawsui

Desantis was doing the same thing in Florida, preventing proffesors from testifying in a voting rights case against the state. https://apnews.com/article/lawsuits-florida-ron-desantis-voting-rights-university-of-florida-f3b88f128a3175586fdc21b56a0a7132 https://apnews.com/article/lawsuits-florida-ron-desantis-vot...

justrealist 3y ago
That's also questionable, but it's not the same thing.
PartiallyTyped 3y ago
Is that not a first amendment violation?
- mcpackieh 3y ago
  Yes, both are and one does not justify the other.
  - PartiallyTyped 3y ago
    I am glad you stated that because it’s good to have it in writing.. we can’t take anything for granted these days.
appplication 3y ago
If I could wear a tin foil hat for a minute: it could be plausible that CA could fight this to allow it to escalate to the Supreme Court and establish a judicial standard for these types of cases. I don’t really understand why, of all the CA government institutions, the CDE finds this to be appropriate stance though. An educational office should absolutely be held to a much higher standard than this, and should at its core value openness of information and freedom of speech. The fact that this lawsuit exists at all is an indication of deeply problematic internal values within CDE that are completely misaligned with its mission and governmental function.
- jeremyjh 3y ago
  CDE is trying to protect itself from the consequences of poor policy decisions made at the highest levels of the department and state government.
jimbob45 3y ago
Florida has the Sunshine laws which would likely preclude this from being a problem in the first place. Florida bad though upvotes to the left.
- ironmagma 3y ago
  Sunshine laws have nothing to do with court testimony.
  - jimbob45 3y ago
    Observers say the dispute has the potential to limit who conducts education research in California and what they are able to study because CDE controls the sharing of data that is not available to the public. All data in Florida from public institutions are public. There would never have been controversy in the first place. But yeah, you're right - the Sunshine laws have nothing to do with testimony.
    - ke88y 3y ago
      > We're getting a little off topic here LOL what? I can request student's grades and disciplinary records via an open records request?
LexiMax 3y ago
Previously on HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29065265 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29065265

justrealist 3y ago

That's also questionable, but it's not the same thing.

PartiallyTyped 3y ago

Is that not a first amendment violation?

mcpackieh 3y ago
Yes, both are and one does not justify the other.
- PartiallyTyped 3y ago
  I am glad you stated that because it’s good to have it in writing.. we can’t take anything for granted these days.

appplication 3y ago

If I could wear a tin foil hat for a minute: it could be plausible that CA could fight this to allow it to escalate to the Supreme Court and establish a judicial standard for these types of cases. I don’t really understand why, of all the CA government institutions, the CDE finds this to be appropriate stance though. An educational office should absolutely be held to a much higher standard than this, and should at its core value openness of information and freedom of speech. The fact that this lawsuit exists at all is an indication of deeply problematic internal values within CDE that are completely misaligned with its mission and governmental function.

jeremyjh 3y ago
CDE is trying to protect itself from the consequences of poor policy decisions made at the highest levels of the department and state government.

jimbob45 3y ago

Florida has the Sunshine laws which would likely preclude this from being a problem in the first place. Florida bad though upvotes to the left.

ironmagma 3y ago
Sunshine laws have nothing to do with court testimony.
- jimbob45 3y ago
  Observers say the dispute has the potential to limit who conducts education research in California and what they are able to study because CDE controls the sharing of data that is not available to the public. All data in Florida from public institutions are public. There would never have been controversy in the first place. But yeah, you're right - the Sunshine laws have nothing to do with testimony.
  - ke88y 3y ago
    > We're getting a little off topic here LOL what? I can request student's grades and disciplinary records via an open records request?

LexiMax 3y ago

Previously on HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29065265 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29065265