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> what do most people here dislike about systemd now Microsoft / Poettering controlling PID 1 development. As simple as that. It could be better on technical

> what do most people here dislike about systemd now Microsoft / Poettering controlling PID 1 development. As simple as that. It could be better on technical merits (I'm 100% convinced systemd ain't the be-all end-all of init/services scripts / PID1 though), I still hate Poettering's attitude. And that guy proved all the haters right by going to work for Microsoft: it's the ultimate fuck you to people who believed in Linux since the beginning.

bananapub 3y ago
> and that guy proved all the haters right by going to work for Microsoft: it's the ultimate fuck you to people who believed in Linux since the beginning. er...what on earth are you talking about? as far as I recall, people complained about Lennart because: 1. they didn't like his attitude (lol) 2. they didn't want "init" to do so much, which was mostly just people not bothering to actually look into systemd-the-binary vs systemd-the-project was 3. random specific technical complaints like journald not using plain text or unit files being ini files or whatever edit: typo > it's the ultimate fuck you to people who believed in Linux since the beginning. out of interest, when in the 90's do you feel this was? does it only apply to people who used slackware 1.0? or just SLS users? or does one have to have received a tarball from Lars directly?
pengaru 3y ago
> And that guy proved all the haters right by going to work for Microsoft: it's the ultimate fuck you to people who believed in Linux since the beginning. I'm sure Lennart was thinking about maximizing tribal offense while evaluating his stable employment options in the midst of RedHat's obvious decline. The list of employers for a full-time upstream systemd maintainer at a competitive salary is rather short. And none of them are particularly attractive in terms of how dirty you'll feel having their logo on your paychecks.

bananapub 3y ago

> and that guy proved all the haters right by going to work for Microsoft: it's the ultimate fuck you to people who believed in Linux since the beginning. er...what on earth are you talking about? as far as I recall, people complained about Lennart because: 1. they didn't like his attitude (lol) 2. they didn't want "init" to do so much, which was mostly just people not bothering to actually look into systemd-the-binary vs systemd-the-project was 3. random specific technical complaints like journald not using plain text or unit files being ini files or whatever edit: typo > it's the ultimate fuck you to people who believed in Linux since the beginning. out of interest, when in the 90's do you feel this was? does it only apply to people who used slackware 1.0? or just SLS users? or does one have to have received a tarball from Lars directly?

pengaru 3y ago

> And that guy proved all the haters right by going to work for Microsoft: it's the ultimate fuck you to people who believed in Linux since the beginning. I'm sure Lennart was thinking about maximizing tribal offense while evaluating his stable employment options in the midst of RedHat's obvious decline. The list of employers for a full-time upstream systemd maintainer at a competitive salary is rather short. And none of them are particularly attractive in terms of how dirty you'll feel having their logo on your paychecks.