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Tor is surely the answer to having your activity be anonymous to companies, how else would you achieve that?

by samsin 3y ago

lll-o-lll 3y ago
How do you interact with companies while maintaining anonymity? How to I buy something online? What stops companies from using various fingerprinting techniques to continue to track me online? Does Tor stop JavaScript running client side?
- hellojesus 3y ago
  You can turn Javascript off just like in normal Firefox.
  - lll-o-lll 3y ago
    > You can turn Javascript off just like in normal Firefox. So you agree that Tor is not the answer to preventing corporate invasion of privacy. As I said, Tor isn’t the answer to any of the true challenges. Balancing accountability and privacy. Allowing law enforcement to be effective. Preventing large corporations from abusing tracking. Those things do actually matter, but they aren’t technical problems inherently, they’re people problems. Technology comes into the mix as part of the solution, but Tor does not factor.
    - DANmode 3y ago
      Tor protocol suffers at the hands of "modern" browser (in)security.
- samsin 3y ago
  That’s your problem. If you believe all communication and activity should be anonymous to companies, why would you willingly hand over your information to those companies? You say it’s hard to achieve in practice, but the easiest thing you can do to prevent companies having access to your data is to not give it to them.
  - lll-o-lll 3y ago
    I think legislators should regulate to make illegal the data-tracking big companies perform. And I think the legislation should give ownership of all data collected about an individual to the individual. In the government space, I think permission should be required from the individual to share information between departments, and the data to again be owned by the individual. How does Tor do anything meaningful about allowing me to both participate in society, and preserve my privacy and data ownership? This is not a technology problem.
    - samsin 3y ago
      >How does Tor do anything meaningful about allowing me to both participate in society, and preserve my privacy and data ownership? This is not a technology problem. I can't speak for your specific situation, but I'll give you an example. In Australia we have mandatory data retention laws. If you don't think private companies (that are exposed to data breaches [1]) should have access to your activity then Tor is the solution to that. That's a more practical solution than waiting for legislation which may never come. https://www.optus.com.au/about/media-centre/media-releases/2022/09/optus-notifies-customers-of-cyberattack https://www.optus.com.au/about/media-centre/media-releases/2...
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Tor is surely the answer to having your activity be anonymous to companies, how else would you achieve that?

by samsin 3y ago

Tor is surely the answer to having your activity be anonymous to companies, how else would you achieve that?

How do you interact with companies while maintaining anonymity? How to I buy something online? What stops companies from using various fingerprinting techniques to continue to track me online? Does Tor stop JavaScript running client side?

hellojesus 3y ago
You can turn Javascript off just like in normal Firefox.
- lll-o-lll 3y ago
  > You can turn Javascript off just like in normal Firefox. So you agree that Tor is not the answer to preventing corporate invasion of privacy. As I said, Tor isn’t the answer to any of the true challenges. Balancing accountability and privacy. Allowing law enforcement to be effective. Preventing large corporations from abusing tracking. Those things do actually matter, but they aren’t technical problems inherently, they’re people problems. Technology comes into the mix as part of the solution, but Tor does not factor.
  - DANmode 3y ago
    Tor protocol suffers at the hands of "modern" browser (in)security.
samsin 3y ago
That’s your problem. If you believe all communication and activity should be anonymous to companies, why would you willingly hand over your information to those companies? You say it’s hard to achieve in practice, but the easiest thing you can do to prevent companies having access to your data is to not give it to them.
- lll-o-lll 3y ago
  I think legislators should regulate to make illegal the data-tracking big companies perform. And I think the legislation should give ownership of all data collected about an individual to the individual. In the government space, I think permission should be required from the individual to share information between departments, and the data to again be owned by the individual. How does Tor do anything meaningful about allowing me to both participate in society, and preserve my privacy and data ownership? This is not a technology problem.
  - samsin 3y ago
    >How does Tor do anything meaningful about allowing me to both participate in society, and preserve my privacy and data ownership? This is not a technology problem. I can't speak for your specific situation, but I'll give you an example. In Australia we have mandatory data retention laws. If you don't think private companies (that are exposed to data breaches [1]) should have access to your activity then Tor is the solution to that. That's a more practical solution than waiting for legislation which may never come. https://www.optus.com.au/about/media-centre/media-releases/2022/09/optus-notifies-customers-of-cyberattack https://www.optus.com.au/about/media-centre/media-releases/2...

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