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Please bring on the app sideloading EU. I am tired of this app store bullshit.

GoofballJones 3y ago
Maybe use Android. You can sideload to that. Why even use an iPhone at all if all you want to do is bypass the appstore and sideload apps anyway? Get a great Android flagship phone with all it's bells and whistles on it and sideload away to your heart's content. I don't know, Apple is trying to stop bad actors from fingerprinting users and violating privacy etc. Or maybe you're into that?
- frameset 3y ago
  I have android phone. I develop a cross platform application (FOSS). Every time I push an update to the app store version it's easily 4x the work of the play store equivalent. I also have to pay apple £80 for the privilege of having my app available for free on their platform. I would just like to be able to provide users a file and say "here you go, install this" so I don't have to pay apple to bless my software.
  - drexlspivey 3y ago
    Oh no you have to pay £80 to gain access to a few billion users, and automatically push updates to them. Maybe don’t pay the fee if you think it’s not worth it.
    - halleys_comet69 3y ago
      The issue is not that you have to pay to put your software on the App Store, it’s that the only way to run your software on the hardware you and your users own is to put it in the App Store.
      - GoofballJones 3y ago
        Yes, sideloading is the key. Meanwhile, from just today: https://arstechnica.com/security/2023/07/android-malware-uses-ocr-to-capture-credentials-displayed-on-phone-screens/ https://arstechnica.com/security/2023/07/android-malware-use...
        vorpalhex 3y ago
        Yep, if you let users install apps, they may install malware. They may also install porn, gambling, lgbtq apps or whatever else you don't approve of. Apple lets the CCP access Chinese iCloud data. They takedown dissodent apps in foreign countries. They block perfectly legal non-malware apps.
        frameset 3y ago
        Yeah that's general purpose computing for you. Though I do note that one of these apps was on the curated store anyway!

Maybe use Android. You can sideload to that. Why even use an iPhone at all if all you want to do is bypass the appstore and sideload apps anyway? Get a great Android flagship phone with all it's bells and whistles on it and sideload away to your heart's content. I don't know, Apple is trying to stop bad actors from fingerprinting users and violating privacy etc. Or maybe you're into that?

frameset 3y ago
I have android phone. I develop a cross platform application (FOSS). Every time I push an update to the app store version it's easily 4x the work of the play store equivalent. I also have to pay apple £80 for the privilege of having my app available for free on their platform. I would just like to be able to provide users a file and say "here you go, install this" so I don't have to pay apple to bless my software.
- drexlspivey 3y ago
  Oh no you have to pay £80 to gain access to a few billion users, and automatically push updates to them. Maybe don’t pay the fee if you think it’s not worth it.
  - halleys_comet69 3y ago
    The issue is not that you have to pay to put your software on the App Store, it’s that the only way to run your software on the hardware you and your users own is to put it in the App Store.
    - GoofballJones 3y ago
      Yes, sideloading is the key. Meanwhile, from just today: https://arstechnica.com/security/2023/07/android-malware-uses-ocr-to-capture-credentials-displayed-on-phone-screens/ https://arstechnica.com/security/2023/07/android-malware-use...
      - vorpalhex 3y ago
        Yep, if you let users install apps, they may install malware. They may also install porn, gambling, lgbtq apps or whatever else you don't approve of. Apple lets the CCP access Chinese iCloud data. They takedown dissodent apps in foreign countries. They block perfectly legal non-malware apps.
      - frameset 3y ago
        Yeah that's general purpose computing for you. Though I do note that one of these apps was on the curated store anyway!