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Years and years of terrible decisions from Google (15 messaging apps, Android SDK glitches that still exist from 2010, copying Apple's features instead of leadi

Years and years of terrible decisions from Google (15 messaging apps, Android SDK glitches that still exist from 2010, copying Apple's features instead of leading) will only continue to let Apple dominate. There's simply no reason to choose Android - iPhone does everything better, for the same price.

throw9away6 3y ago
Yeah pixel line phones are the only decent android devices but they aren’t as good as iPhones and they cost the same. 6 or so years ago they were competing at the 400-500$ range and were actually a good trade off
PhilipRoman 3y ago
I'm sorry, but - "for the same price"? You must live in a very different place than I do.
- ramesh31 3y ago
  > I'm sorry, but - "for the same price"? You must live in a very different place than I do. iPhone 14 Plus MSRP: $899. Google Pixel 7 Pro MSRP: $899. Guess which one will last longer and have higher resale?
  - flutas 3y ago
    Why compare the lower end iPhone to the higher end Android? iPhone 14 Pro: $999 Pixel 7 Pro: $899 iPhone 14: $799 Pixel 7: $599 Pixel 7a: $499
    - drcongo 3y ago
      The lower end iPhone still outperforms the higher end Android.
      - flutas 3y ago
        Except they aren't comparing straight price. Here's the quote again. > There's simply no reason to choose Android - iPhone does everything better, for the same price. The person you replied to, then replied > I'm sorry, but - "for the same price"? You must live in a very different place than I do. They are saying that android phones don't have to cost the same as iPhones for the same functionality. A point you made for them by having to compare a pro of one to a bigger screen normal version to get the same price.
        drcongo 3y ago
        You're struggling a little here aren't you. 1) it wasn't me that compared them, 2) "There's simply no reason to choose Android - iPhone does everything better, for the same price." - which it does, even for the same price, and 3) "They are saying that android phones don't have to cost the same as iPhones for the same functionality." - it's not the same functionality if we've already established that the iPhone does it better, even if you spend the same amount of money.
      - bitsandboots 3y ago
        In what? What are you doing that hasn't become so fast it's imperceptibly different on all modern phones? They all seem to text, browse, email, and play media at the required FPS and load time to me. Yes I have seen synthetic benchmarks. But, they haven't had any relevance to what I do on my phone since like 2012, so I'm wondering what other people are doing?
        alexdbird 3y ago
        The performance becomes more relevant when it's running the latest OS update over 5 years later. Software only ever gets heavier, as a rule.
    - macintosh-hd 3y ago
      Why did you exclude the iPhone SE?
      - flutas 3y ago
        Because I'm lazy and honestly forgot it existed. It's also over a year old at this point and is considered to be "last gen" along side the iPhone 13). Can't edit to add it.
- matchbok 3y ago
  Low-end iPhones outperform and outlast high-end Android phones. Nobody keeps an Android longer than 3 years because it slows down and doesn't get updates. Not the case for iPhone.
wvenable 3y ago
My wife is totally in the iOS ecosystem and I'm fully in the Samsung ecosystem and they both have their pros and cons. Pros on Android: My work profile is isolated from my personal profile, I can just copy movies onto the device and play them with VLC, automatic routines are better, audio controls are much better, the back button, ad blockers, real alternative browsers, etc. The problem with long term iPhone users is that they don't know what they don't know. Superficially, it's very easy to see an Android phone and an inferior iPhone if you only look at what iPhones can do. That being said, I always recommend iPhones over Android for family/friends/etc. For someone like myself, who is a little bit technical I actually prefer the control, customization, and advanced features of Android. I actually find iPhones to be frustratingly simplistic.
- skydhash 3y ago
  As a technical user (I was rooting my phone to get upgrades and remove bloatware and I was jailbreaking out of iphone), I got bored out of doing customization. I just want something to work and do the stuff I need to do. If I need to tinker, I will buy something to tinker with, but I don’t want that in other areas of my life. I don’t want to modify my fridge or my washing machine (I know what I should learn to do it). If my iPhone can no longer do what I need, i’ll switch. And these days, I’m against the kitchen sink. I watch movies on a TV (there’s always one anywhere I’ve been) I read books on an e-reader, and I have a DAP for listening to music (except today, streaming is becoming more convenient for general listening). And most of my computing is done on my laptop. My phone is very much an appliance because I don’t need it to do much, just that it does it reliably.
  - wvenable 3y ago
    My Android customizations are all in the direction of minimalism. I turn off ever-present icons that provide no useful information. I turn off anything I don't need and keep it small and simple. One thing I did literally 2 days ago: I've been using my phone for navigation a lot more this month than ever before but having the maps audio go through the Bluetooth to the car is awful in my car. For media and calls it's fine but for navigation it's just not a good experience. So I've been manually flipping the app audio to my phone every time I use it. I finally got fed up and created a routine to automatically set the audio for maps to the phone whenever it's connected to the car and, if also plugged in, launch maps automatically. Took only seconds to setup (should have done it sooner) and now I'm less annoyed whenever I have to use my phone for navigation.

throw9away6 3y ago

Yeah pixel line phones are the only decent android devices but they aren’t as good as iPhones and they cost the same. 6 or so years ago they were competing at the 400-500$ range and were actually a good trade off

PhilipRoman 3y ago

I'm sorry, but - "for the same price"? You must live in a very different place than I do.

ramesh31 3y ago
> I'm sorry, but - "for the same price"? You must live in a very different place than I do. iPhone 14 Plus MSRP: $899. Google Pixel 7 Pro MSRP: $899. Guess which one will last longer and have higher resale?
- flutas 3y ago
  Why compare the lower end iPhone to the higher end Android? iPhone 14 Pro: $999 Pixel 7 Pro: $899 iPhone 14: $799 Pixel 7: $599 Pixel 7a: $499
  - drcongo 3y ago
    The lower end iPhone still outperforms the higher end Android.
    - flutas 3y ago
      Except they aren't comparing straight price. Here's the quote again. > There's simply no reason to choose Android - iPhone does everything better, for the same price. The person you replied to, then replied > I'm sorry, but - "for the same price"? You must live in a very different place than I do. They are saying that android phones don't have to cost the same as iPhones for the same functionality. A point you made for them by having to compare a pro of one to a bigger screen normal version to get the same price.
      - drcongo 3y ago
        You're struggling a little here aren't you. 1) it wasn't me that compared them, 2) "There's simply no reason to choose Android - iPhone does everything better, for the same price." - which it does, even for the same price, and 3) "They are saying that android phones don't have to cost the same as iPhones for the same functionality." - it's not the same functionality if we've already established that the iPhone does it better, even if you spend the same amount of money.
    - bitsandboots 3y ago
      In what? What are you doing that hasn't become so fast it's imperceptibly different on all modern phones? They all seem to text, browse, email, and play media at the required FPS and load time to me. Yes I have seen synthetic benchmarks. But, they haven't had any relevance to what I do on my phone since like 2012, so I'm wondering what other people are doing?
      - alexdbird 3y ago
        The performance becomes more relevant when it's running the latest OS update over 5 years later. Software only ever gets heavier, as a rule.
  - macintosh-hd 3y ago
    Why did you exclude the iPhone SE?
    - flutas 3y ago
      Because I'm lazy and honestly forgot it existed. It's also over a year old at this point and is considered to be "last gen" along side the iPhone 13). Can't edit to add it.
matchbok 3y ago
Low-end iPhones outperform and outlast high-end Android phones. Nobody keeps an Android longer than 3 years because it slows down and doesn't get updates. Not the case for iPhone.

wvenable 3y ago

My wife is totally in the iOS ecosystem and I'm fully in the Samsung ecosystem and they both have their pros and cons. Pros on Android: My work profile is isolated from my personal profile, I can just copy movies onto the device and play them with VLC, automatic routines are better, audio controls are much better, the back button, ad blockers, real alternative browsers, etc. The problem with long term iPhone users is that they don't know what they don't know. Superficially, it's very easy to see an Android phone and an inferior iPhone if you only look at what iPhones can do. That being said, I always recommend iPhones over Android for family/friends/etc. For someone like myself, who is a little bit technical I actually prefer the control, customization, and advanced features of Android. I actually find iPhones to be frustratingly simplistic.

skydhash 3y ago
As a technical user (I was rooting my phone to get upgrades and remove bloatware and I was jailbreaking out of iphone), I got bored out of doing customization. I just want something to work and do the stuff I need to do. If I need to tinker, I will buy something to tinker with, but I don’t want that in other areas of my life. I don’t want to modify my fridge or my washing machine (I know what I should learn to do it). If my iPhone can no longer do what I need, i’ll switch. And these days, I’m against the kitchen sink. I watch movies on a TV (there’s always one anywhere I’ve been) I read books on an e-reader, and I have a DAP for listening to music (except today, streaming is becoming more convenient for general listening). And most of my computing is done on my laptop. My phone is very much an appliance because I don’t need it to do much, just that it does it reliably.
- wvenable 3y ago
  My Android customizations are all in the direction of minimalism. I turn off ever-present icons that provide no useful information. I turn off anything I don't need and keep it small and simple. One thing I did literally 2 days ago: I've been using my phone for navigation a lot more this month than ever before but having the maps audio go through the Bluetooth to the car is awful in my car. For media and calls it's fine but for navigation it's just not a good experience. So I've been manually flipping the app audio to my phone every time I use it. I finally got fed up and created a routine to automatically set the audio for maps to the phone whenever it's connected to the car and, if also plugged in, launch maps automatically. Took only seconds to setup (should have done it sooner) and now I'm less annoyed whenever I have to use my phone for navigation.