Sam Harris podcast episode 210[1] had guests William J. Perry, former Secretary of Defense and founding member of Nuclear Threat Initiative[2], and his grand da

Sam Harris podcast episode 210[1] had guests William J. Perry, former Secretary of Defense and founding member of Nuclear Threat Initiative[2], and his grand daughter Lisa Perry, Communications Director at At The Brink[3], to talk in large part about that scary aspect of nuclear weapons, and how an accidental nuclear war is more likely than a deliberate one. [1] https://youtu.be/NVnwc4rZI_0?t=12m40s https://youtu.be/NVnwc4rZI_0?t=12m40s Episode 210 (no paywall) [2] https://www.nti.org https://www.nti.org "focused on reducing nuclear and biological threats" [3] https://atthebrink.org https://atthebrink.org Podcast about the modern situation with nuclear weapons