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Might be worth adding a paragraph about what VyOS is, maybe not for the target audience but certainly for HN. https://vyos.io/ https://vyos.io/ The VyOS websi

Might be worth adding a paragraph about what VyOS is, maybe not for the target audience but certainly for HN. https://vyos.io/ https://vyos.io/ The VyOS website says: > Democratizing how we access networks through a universal Router and Open source software. > Our vision at VyOS is to dramatically change how we access networks so that we can all build the solutions we always dreamed of, without restrictions, limitations, or prohibitive costs. But I'm still kind of none the wiser. Does this thing use Linux or something else?

minimaul 3y ago
Yes - it's a Debian Linux based router distro that is at least partially modelled after Juniper's configuration style. edit: used to be a maintainer for a short while :)
rnhmjoj 3y ago
It's a fork vyatta[1], the same system used by Ubiquiti for EdgeOS. Yes, it's Debian with a declarative configuration system. It works more or less similarly to NixOS, if you know about that: basically it uses a bunch of perl scripts to install and set up software from a single unified configuration file, hiding all the implementation details. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vyatta https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vyatta
- sebazzz 3y ago
  And it works great because your router starts from a read-only image, then executes the scripts and applies the configuration. You can easily roll back and forward configuration and firmware versions.
- LeBit 3y ago
  I don't think they use Perl anymore. They have been moving to Python.
- nunez 3y ago
  Had no idea vyatta is what Ubiquiti uses. Very cool.
  - paradox460 3y ago
    Thats only on EdgeOS though. UbiquitiOS uses a different system, built around Podman and Debian
yrro 3y ago
It's a Network Operating System for configuring routers & switches (implemented on top of Debian). This means: * You can SSH in and configure it like you would a managed switch or router. There's a single object that models all of the device's configuration, when you commit it a bunch of scripts activate and actaully apply the configuration to the running system. * Deployments are image based, you can roll back to older images etc. * You don't need to look at any of the system's underlying configuration files or use any of the normal Linux commands to examine and manipulate the state of the system (the commands are still there for convenience of course). You don't even need to be aware that you're really using a bunch of custom bash functions to examine and manipulate the state of the system.
Arnavion 3y ago
It's a Debian 8 base with a lot of its own custom packages. The homepage has an FAQ that tries to reassure you that being based on Debian 8 is not a problem. Whether that convinces you or not is up to you, of course. I personally use regular Debian 12 on my router without problems. It also has "declarative config" since all the configuration, firewall rules, etc are a bunch of config files that I can scp / ansible over any time.

minimaul 3y ago

Yes - it's a Debian Linux based router distro that is at least partially modelled after Juniper's configuration style. edit: used to be a maintainer for a short while :)

rnhmjoj 3y ago

It's a fork vyatta[1], the same system used by Ubiquiti for EdgeOS. Yes, it's Debian with a declarative configuration system. It works more or less similarly to NixOS, if you know about that: basically it uses a bunch of perl scripts to install and set up software from a single unified configuration file, hiding all the implementation details. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vyatta https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vyatta

sebazzz 3y ago
And it works great because your router starts from a read-only image, then executes the scripts and applies the configuration. You can easily roll back and forward configuration and firmware versions.
LeBit 3y ago
I don't think they use Perl anymore. They have been moving to Python.
nunez 3y ago
Had no idea vyatta is what Ubiquiti uses. Very cool.
- paradox460 3y ago
  Thats only on EdgeOS though. UbiquitiOS uses a different system, built around Podman and Debian

yrro 3y ago

It's a Network Operating System for configuring routers & switches (implemented on top of Debian). This means: * You can SSH in and configure it like you would a managed switch or router. There's a single object that models all of the device's configuration, when you commit it a bunch of scripts activate and actaully apply the configuration to the running system. * Deployments are image based, you can roll back to older images etc. * You don't need to look at any of the system's underlying configuration files or use any of the normal Linux commands to examine and manipulate the state of the system (the commands are still there for convenience of course). You don't even need to be aware that you're really using a bunch of custom bash functions to examine and manipulate the state of the system.

Arnavion 3y ago

It's a Debian 8 base with a lot of its own custom packages. The homepage has an FAQ that tries to reassure you that being based on Debian 8 is not a problem. Whether that convinces you or not is up to you, of course. I personally use regular Debian 12 on my router without problems. It also has "declarative config" since all the configuration, firewall rules, etc are a bunch of config files that I can scp / ansible over any time.