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Half the comments in this thread are you systematically writing essay replies to every single person that has raised doubts about this bill. Whats more, you spe

Half the comments in this thread are you systematically writing essay replies to every single person that has raised doubts about this bill. Whats more, you spend significant time blowing smoke up the ass of someone who willingly self identified themselves in here about co-writing the bill themselves, who also replied to other comments in this thread. So we can tell off the bat that there is a vested, devoted, interest in shaping the perception of this bill by the literal people who wrote it here. You then have the gall to call the EFF complaints 'specious FUD'. You can't even construct alegitimate counterargument. Just straight up dismissing them and saying they're fearmongering. You deflect this by claiming the bill will 'stick it to the man' that is Meta. Finally, you pathetically try to appeal to authority with the claim that the bill has forty two co-sponsors. This literally means fucking nothing. Absolutely nothing. Entire DUMBER bills are written and supported by more congressmen. It's honestly embarrassing that you think this is a strong point of why your bill should be passed through. So please, tell me how this isn't the genuine definition of astroturfing?

ke88y 3y ago
I noticed that you haven't bothered to reply to any of my reasons for supporting KOSA, or any of the observations about factual inaccuracies or exaggerations in the EFF post. There exist people who disagree with you and who aren't paid PR shills. Like me. I feel strongly about a bill that you don't like. It's possible to have an adult conversation about the merits of the bill without accusing literally everyone who disagrees with you of astrofurfing. The accusation of astroturfing -- which BY DEFINITION involves fake identities -- is particularly ironic in this thread where the ONLY non-anonymous comment is from a supporter. You're like the person who says that they can't believe that some candidate or another won and election because they have literally never met a person in their life who would vote for that candidate. I've explained my reasons for supporting this bill at length. Instead of responding to my long and substantive rebuttals about the EFF's claims, you're name calling. I'm not going to convince you. That's fine. Others can read the EFF post, them read my comments here, then read the bill, and form their own opinion. (Also: two can play at this ridiculously juvenile game. I would not be surprised if Meta et al. astrofurf comment sections on topcis like this. For every one person like me, there are dozens of low-effort paranoid comments designed to direct the hive mind away from regulating Meta's bullshit.)
- commoner 3y ago
  Meta would be thrilled to see KOSA pass, since it the time and effort required to censor any content alleged to trigger anxiety or depression would cause smaller social networks to be infeasible to run. How is a Mastodon instance supposed to operate when its volunteer moderators' workload is compounded by KOSA's censorship mandate? The EFF has raised many good points about how KOSA's censorship mandate would harm people under 18. Calling the EFF's well-reasoned arguments "FUD" and labeling people who oppose KOSA a "hive mind" is not a substitute for engaging with the facts at hand. If KOSA is as innocuous as you are claiming it is, then explain in detail how a website covered under this bill could "prevent and mitigate" anxiety or depression to comply with the bill without the use of censorship. The EFF is not the only organization that opposes KOSA. There are over 90 more who have signed this letter condemning KOSA, including the ACLU, Yale Privacy Lab, GLAAD, and the Human Trafficking Prevention Project: https://www.fightforthefuture.org/news/2022-11-28-letter-90-lgbtq-and-human-rights-organizations-oppose-kosa https://www.fightforthefuture.org/news/2022-11-28-letter-90-...

ke88y 3y ago

I noticed that you haven't bothered to reply to any of my reasons for supporting KOSA, or any of the observations about factual inaccuracies or exaggerations in the EFF post. There exist people who disagree with you and who aren't paid PR shills. Like me. I feel strongly about a bill that you don't like. It's possible to have an adult conversation about the merits of the bill without accusing literally everyone who disagrees with you of astrofurfing. The accusation of astroturfing -- which BY DEFINITION involves fake identities -- is particularly ironic in this thread where the ONLY non-anonymous comment is from a supporter. You're like the person who says that they can't believe that some candidate or another won and election because they have literally never met a person in their life who would vote for that candidate. I've explained my reasons for supporting this bill at length. Instead of responding to my long and substantive rebuttals about the EFF's claims, you're name calling. I'm not going to convince you. That's fine. Others can read the EFF post, them read my comments here, then read the bill, and form their own opinion. (Also: two can play at this ridiculously juvenile game. I would not be surprised if Meta et al. astrofurf comment sections on topcis like this. For every one person like me, there are dozens of low-effort paranoid comments designed to direct the hive mind away from regulating Meta's bullshit.)

commoner 3y ago
Meta would be thrilled to see KOSA pass, since it the time and effort required to censor any content alleged to trigger anxiety or depression would cause smaller social networks to be infeasible to run. How is a Mastodon instance supposed to operate when its volunteer moderators' workload is compounded by KOSA's censorship mandate? The EFF has raised many good points about how KOSA's censorship mandate would harm people under 18. Calling the EFF's well-reasoned arguments "FUD" and labeling people who oppose KOSA a "hive mind" is not a substitute for engaging with the facts at hand. If KOSA is as innocuous as you are claiming it is, then explain in detail how a website covered under this bill could "prevent and mitigate" anxiety or depression to comply with the bill without the use of censorship. The EFF is not the only organization that opposes KOSA. There are over 90 more who have signed this letter condemning KOSA, including the ACLU, Yale Privacy Lab, GLAAD, and the Human Trafficking Prevention Project: https://www.fightforthefuture.org/news/2022-11-28-letter-90-lgbtq-and-human-rights-organizations-oppose-kosa https://www.fightforthefuture.org/news/2022-11-28-letter-90-...