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> This is what it has come to. There are thousands of resumes being sent at my company, yet the recruiter can't find anyone. Why? Because no one is applying thr

by rewmie 3y ago

> This is what it has come to. There are thousands of resumes being sent at my company, yet the recruiter can't find anyone. Why? Because no one is applying through her link. It sounds like your recruiter is purposely ignoring any resume that is not explicitly sent to her personally. It sounds like a job security move at the expense of both the company and candidate's best interests.

firefoxd 3y ago
A lot of resumes are not even for the job she posts. Bots and other 3rd party recruiters are also trying to game the system so they drown real candidates. When a resumes is from her link, there are high chances it's a real person who took the time to read the job description.
- davidthewatson 3y ago
  The post-modern labor dichotomy between robots and human robots is mirrored on the hiring side in ATS and HR, respectively. Sadly, this is not new: https://medium.com/@jannaq/the-robot-takeover-is-already-here-5aa55e1d136a#:~:text=more%20robot%2Dlike.-,Algorithms%20are%20taking%20over%20much%20of%20the%20human%20work%20of%20hiring,the%20robots%20are%20most%20likely%20to%20hire%20the%20most%20robotic%20humans.,-The%20tests%20for https://medium.com/@jannaq/the-robot-takeover-is-already-her...
- rewmie 3y ago
  > A lot of resumes are not even for the job she posts. I don't see how this can be a problem. People do look for jobs by contacting companies. Isn't the goal of a recruiter to check potential candidates? > Bots and other 3rd party recruiters are also trying to game the system so they drown real candidates. I fail to see how this problem is avoided by ignoring the company's inbox. > When a resumes is from her link, there are high chances it's a real person who took the time to read the job description. I don't but it. This does not pass the smell test, as screening does not depend on which input you use. It sounds like someone is failing to meet their job requirements.
  - solarmist 3y ago
    Really? You don’t see how a recruiter would miss things if there’s 100+ spam/totally unqualified resumes for every legitimate one?
    - rewmie 3y ago
      > Really? You don’t see how a recruiter would miss things if there’s 100+ spam/totally unqualified resumes for every legitimate one? Your comment makes no sense. You're arguing that a recruiter should miss 100% of all contacts because otherwise they would miss things. It's like arguing to throw the baby out with the bath water because otherwise your recruiter would miss things like the soap.
      - solarmist 3y ago
        Where did I say everything? I didn't say that.
dumpsterdiver 3y ago
> It sounds like your recruiter is purposely ignoring any resume that is not explicitly sent to her personally. Curious, how does one ignore something that is never actually sent to them, explicitly or not?
- OJFord 3y ago
  By my reading: ignore careers@acme.com, read ojford@acme.com (mail from the recruiter I hired, who has my email address, while direct applicants don't).

by rewmie 3y ago

firefoxd 3y ago

A lot of resumes are not even for the job she posts. Bots and other 3rd party recruiters are also trying to game the system so they drown real candidates. When a resumes is from her link, there are high chances it's a real person who took the time to read the job description.

davidthewatson 3y ago
The post-modern labor dichotomy between robots and human robots is mirrored on the hiring side in ATS and HR, respectively. Sadly, this is not new: https://medium.com/@jannaq/the-robot-takeover-is-already-here-5aa55e1d136a#:~:text=more%20robot%2Dlike.-,Algorithms%20are%20taking%20over%20much%20of%20the%20human%20work%20of%20hiring,the%20robots%20are%20most%20likely%20to%20hire%20the%20most%20robotic%20humans.,-The%20tests%20for https://medium.com/@jannaq/the-robot-takeover-is-already-her...
rewmie 3y ago
> A lot of resumes are not even for the job she posts. I don't see how this can be a problem. People do look for jobs by contacting companies. Isn't the goal of a recruiter to check potential candidates? > Bots and other 3rd party recruiters are also trying to game the system so they drown real candidates. I fail to see how this problem is avoided by ignoring the company's inbox. > When a resumes is from her link, there are high chances it's a real person who took the time to read the job description. I don't but it. This does not pass the smell test, as screening does not depend on which input you use. It sounds like someone is failing to meet their job requirements.
- solarmist 3y ago
  Really? You don’t see how a recruiter would miss things if there’s 100+ spam/totally unqualified resumes for every legitimate one?
  - rewmie 3y ago
    > Really? You don’t see how a recruiter would miss things if there’s 100+ spam/totally unqualified resumes for every legitimate one? Your comment makes no sense. You're arguing that a recruiter should miss 100% of all contacts because otherwise they would miss things. It's like arguing to throw the baby out with the bath water because otherwise your recruiter would miss things like the soap.
    - solarmist 3y ago
      Where did I say everything? I didn't say that.

dumpsterdiver 3y ago

> It sounds like your recruiter is purposely ignoring any resume that is not explicitly sent to her personally. Curious, how does one ignore something that is never actually sent to them, explicitly or not?

OJFord 3y ago
By my reading: ignore careers@acme.com, read ojford@acme.com (mail from the recruiter I hired, who has my email address, while direct applicants don't).