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The video that webwielder2 posted below from PolyMatter is a really good start: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndqsvTIveR0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndqs
by techsupporter 3y ago
The video that webwielder2 posted below from PolyMatter is a really good start: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndqsvTIveR0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndqsvTIveR0
In short, it's about making an experience that draws people in who are looking for the comfort/familiarity/ease of a chain, while not just relying on that. The Cheesecake Factory is an above-average restaurant masquerading as a Sysco-food-reheating-service.
The very large menu is a feature--something for everyone--that would be a bug if a lot of other restaurants tried it because the execution is often so dismal once a particular level of size or growth (or both) is reached.
- CaptainNegative 3y ago"Something for everyone" is stretching it when they have one vegan entree: The Impossible Burger. The closest second option, if it even counts as a separate option, is the "Skinny" Impossible Burger, which comes with mayo that can be removed. Nothing else is close to vegan, unless you're into ordering Chicken Lettuce Wraps without Chicken.
- account42 3y agoSo it does seem they have something even for vegans. Something doesn't mean that the entire selection is built around your particular quirks.
- CaptainNegative 3y agoBy that notion my home kitchen also has something for everyone because I have a tomato in the fridge. Where's my HN praise for being so culinarily flexible?
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- Retric 3y agoTrue Vegan (no Honey etc) is unusually strict but “there are 9 vegan options at the Cheesecake Factory, plus a handful of other dishes that can be customized to make it vegan.” https://dietmenus.com/restaurant/the-cheesecake-factory https://dietmenus.com/restaurant/the-cheesecake-factory Vegetarian bumps that to 52 menu items.
- CaptainNegative 3y agoThere are a few more options when generalizing beyond entrées, but still five of the items listed on that page are salads, with the other four being a side of beets, asparagus, artichoke, or edamame. Which, at double digit Calories, is only as much a reasonable meal for vegans as it is for carnists (that is to say not much of one).
- parineum 3y agoI would think that vegans regularly have salad for dinner, no?
- bobthepanda 3y agoA lot of vegetarians and vegans I know personally hate salad, because it is so often the only option at a restaurant and often an afterthought for those who don’t eat meat or are trying to lose weight. It also does limit the choice of dressing, for example anything with mayo is off limits.
- HelloMcFly 3y agoTrue, but again at the CCF salads aren't the only option, but about half of them.
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- asifgnionio 3y agoNo, vegans eat food.
- parineum 3y agoSalad is food, afaik. I eat it frequently.
- AlgorithmicTime 3y ago
- civilitty 3y ago> Nothing else is close to vegan, unless you're into ordering Chicken Lettuce Wraps without Chicken. They just haven't figured out how to keep vegans from spoiling in a commercial kitchen yet. They're high maintenance, a bit too big for the freezer, and the vacuum packer tends to deprive them of oxygen.
- doctor_eval 3y agoBut... cows are vegan, aren't they?
- midoridensha 3y agoActually, no. They're (occasional) omnivores, believe it or not: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/when-herbivores-arent-poor-chicken-got-eaten-cow-180951115/ https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/when-herbivores-ar... Horses sometimes eat chickens too.
- kuhewa 3y agoNary a grazer turns down occasional free protein
- sand500 3y ago> Chicken Lettuce Wraps without Chicken. Which is an actual item on the menu https://www.thecheesecakefactory.com/menu/appetizers/thai-lettuce-wraps-with-avocado https://www.thecheesecakefactory.com/menu/appetizers/thai-le...
- seidleroni 3y agoThe avocado lettuce wraps are really good (I'm mostly vegan). I've taken my young kids (6 and 4) there and it works out great. I usually get this and the kids get whatever they want.
- kayodelycaon 3y agoI'm allergic to milk and I stay very far away from such places. Cross-contamination is pretty much a given. (Same with actual fancy restaurants and butter.)
- jonhohle 3y agoThank you for that video. I would have assumed TCF was a Sysco-food-reheating-service masquerading as a slightly expensive mid-range restaurant. I have a new respect for it, though don't understand how they present themselves.