Pardon? I don't see how I'm doing any of those things. I'm suggesting that, if we don't have new evidence to bring to bare on the issue, we should probably tak

Pardon? I don't see how I'm doing any of those things. I'm suggesting that, if we don't have new evidence to bring to bare on the issue, we should probably take the word of the person who was there in the room, who studied and developed proficiency in this specialty, and developed experience communicating with Koko in particular. I definitely didn't suggest Koko was incapable of experiencing humiliation. I'm sure something like what you're describing could happen, but the researchers who have the skills I outlined and were physically present (thus able to see body language and able to ask followup questions) are in a better position to evaluate that then we are. If I said anything to unintentionally imply these things, I am always interested in feedback about how my writing could be clearer.