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Earlier this week it was a Wired hit piece telling us Signal is full of alt-right boogymen and naziquadroons. Now they're the champions of digital freedom. I'm

by pard68 3y ago

Earlier this week it was a Wired hit piece telling us Signal is full of alt-right boogymen and naziquadroons. Now they're the champions of digital freedom. I'm gonna have whiplash!

downWidOutaFite 3y ago
different people have different opinions?
smartbit 3y ago
https://www.wired.com/story/signal-politics-software-criticism/ https://www.wired.com/story/signal-politics-software-critici...
- mitchbob 3y ago
  https://archive.ph/zJYsf https://archive.ph/zJYsf
defrost 3y ago
Are you talking about the Wired piece linked by smartbit ? If so this seems like an unfair summary given the piece is very long, the first half sings technical praise, the second half laments the challenges faced, and there's one single small paragraph (that I saw) that mentions some Signal users as possible boogymen: The company’s aggressive pursuit of growth, coupled with lack of moderation in the app, has already led Signal employees themselves to publicly question whether growth might come from abusive users, such as far-right groups using Signal to organize. which seems more of a cautionary note rather than a hit piece.
- omnimus 3y ago
  I dont understand how you want to have secure e2e messaging app AND not have fascist (and pedophiles, druglords) in there. Of course they are there. The whole point of the app is that it cant be moderated because nobody knows the contents. This must be obvious to anyone using Signal and having atleast remote understand of it. I think that must have been written by some random commenter who think it works like facebook (aka police honeypot).
DANmode 3y ago
Consider the source.
GuB-42 3y ago
I would be dubious of privacy-focused services that are not full of nazis, criminals, and other unsavory individuals. Journalists, whistleblowers, protesters and other "freedom fighter" needs are the same as criminals, in fact they may be criminals according to their local laws. You can't have one without the other.

by pard68 3y ago

Earlier this week it was a Wired hit piece telling us Signal is full of alt-right boogymen and naziquadroons. Now they're the champions of digital freedom. I'm gonna have whiplash!

downWidOutaFite 3y ago

different people have different opinions?

smartbit 3y ago

https://www.wired.com/story/signal-politics-software-criticism/ https://www.wired.com/story/signal-politics-software-critici...

mitchbob 3y ago
https://archive.ph/zJYsf https://archive.ph/zJYsf

defrost 3y ago

Are you talking about the Wired piece linked by smartbit ? If so this seems like an unfair summary given the piece is very long, the first half sings technical praise, the second half laments the challenges faced, and there's one single small paragraph (that I saw) that mentions some Signal users as possible boogymen: The company’s aggressive pursuit of growth, coupled with lack of moderation in the app, has already led Signal employees themselves to publicly question whether growth might come from abusive users, such as far-right groups using Signal to organize. which seems more of a cautionary note rather than a hit piece.

omnimus 3y ago
I dont understand how you want to have secure e2e messaging app AND not have fascist (and pedophiles, druglords) in there. Of course they are there. The whole point of the app is that it cant be moderated because nobody knows the contents. This must be obvious to anyone using Signal and having atleast remote understand of it. I think that must have been written by some random commenter who think it works like facebook (aka police honeypot).

DANmode 3y ago

Consider the source.

GuB-42 3y ago

I would be dubious of privacy-focused services that are not full of nazis, criminals, and other unsavory individuals. Journalists, whistleblowers, protesters and other "freedom fighter" needs are the same as criminals, in fact they may be criminals according to their local laws. You can't have one without the other.