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I don't know if this is controversial or not, but I don't think that clicking things on a screen with a mouse will ever be intuitive for humans to the same exte

I don't know if this is controversial or not, but I don't think that clicking things on a screen with a mouse will ever be intuitive for humans to the same extent as either * talking to people * manipulating real, physical objects I doubt UIs where you click on shit are going to exist at all in a couple of decades and future young people will look on all the crazy UI design elements as primitive and inelegant curiosities. Similar to how regular people think about pre-win3.1 DOS computing I suppose.

lolinder 3y ago
You must not have kids. We try to limit screen usage, but when my oldest was two he was finding iPhone lock screen features that we didn't even know existed.
creata 3y ago
> I doubt UIs where you click on shit are going to exist at all in a couple of decades I'm not sure what kind of UI you imagine for, say, PowerPoint, or Blender, or Excel.
- ukuina 3y ago
  Software like Blender, for one, will likely be primarily chat-driven in a decade. The chatbox *is* the UI.
  - yencabulator 3y ago
    Move the thing on the right a little more to the right. No, not that thing!
SoftTalker 3y ago
I refuse to talk conversationally to computers. They are not humans, they are there to be given commands and carry out those commands without a lot of back and forth. I don't even use any of the voice interfaces with my devices, I've disabled Siri and "Hey Google" on all of them. I won't use a chatbot on a website. I simply draw the line and reject this fantasy that a computer can or should be treated like or behave like a person.
- herewulf 3y ago
  Hear, hear. It's like how for years search engines have been carefully guiding us into writing search queries as folk sentence questions. In the beginning of search entering a few terms was good enough to be shown relevant information. I don't want to have a conversation with a search engine either!
  - Ekaros 3y ago
    I have been poisoned by AskJeeves and I didn't use it much... Sometimes it makes sense to ask a question, because well it should be one many people have already asked, but most of the times I just want keyword search.
- Aerbil313 3y ago
  I understand. Yet natural language is the natural and most intuitive interface, directly built into our brains. I'm convinced that the default user interface will be LLMs while tech-savvy folks will continue to use command-l'ne like interfaces in the future. For normies, traditional GUIs will most likely be both harder to comprehend and slower to use than LMUIs* when they're maturely implemented. After all these years spent with a smartphone, my older relatives still can't do the simplest operations on their phones. And this is because they don't care (to learn), no non-tech person ever wants to spend their lives learning mere tools more than a software developer wants to learn about the intricacies of their car, and they're justified in that. * I coined the term rn. Tho probably someone else already did it.
theoriginaldog 3y ago
Operating a computer with mouse and keyboard is manipulating real, physical objects. I move my mouse and point it towards something, that is quite real. The computer is a tool, I do not want to talk to it. Imagine talking to your hammer and asking it to drive in a nail instead of just doing it.- Voice commands are hilariously inefficient. For simple commands like open an app, set an alarm etc. they suffice but fore more complex operations its just horseshit.

lolinder 3y ago

You must not have kids. We try to limit screen usage, but when my oldest was two he was finding iPhone lock screen features that we didn't even know existed.

creata 3y ago

> I doubt UIs where you click on shit are going to exist at all in a couple of decades I'm not sure what kind of UI you imagine for, say, PowerPoint, or Blender, or Excel.

ukuina 3y ago
Software like Blender, for one, will likely be primarily chat-driven in a decade. The chatbox *is* the UI.
- yencabulator 3y ago
  Move the thing on the right a little more to the right. No, not that thing!

SoftTalker 3y ago

I refuse to talk conversationally to computers. They are not humans, they are there to be given commands and carry out those commands without a lot of back and forth. I don't even use any of the voice interfaces with my devices, I've disabled Siri and "Hey Google" on all of them. I won't use a chatbot on a website. I simply draw the line and reject this fantasy that a computer can or should be treated like or behave like a person.

herewulf 3y ago
Hear, hear. It's like how for years search engines have been carefully guiding us into writing search queries as folk sentence questions. In the beginning of search entering a few terms was good enough to be shown relevant information. I don't want to have a conversation with a search engine either!
- Ekaros 3y ago
  I have been poisoned by AskJeeves and I didn't use it much... Sometimes it makes sense to ask a question, because well it should be one many people have already asked, but most of the times I just want keyword search.
Aerbil313 3y ago
I understand. Yet natural language is the natural and most intuitive interface, directly built into our brains. I'm convinced that the default user interface will be LLMs while tech-savvy folks will continue to use command-l'ne like interfaces in the future. For normies, traditional GUIs will most likely be both harder to comprehend and slower to use than LMUIs* when they're maturely implemented. After all these years spent with a smartphone, my older relatives still can't do the simplest operations on their phones. And this is because they don't care (to learn), no non-tech person ever wants to spend their lives learning mere tools more than a software developer wants to learn about the intricacies of their car, and they're justified in that. * I coined the term rn. Tho probably someone else already did it.

theoriginaldog 3y ago

Operating a computer with mouse and keyboard is manipulating real, physical objects. I move my mouse and point it towards something, that is quite real. The computer is a tool, I do not want to talk to it. Imagine talking to your hammer and asking it to drive in a nail instead of just doing it.- Voice commands are hilariously inefficient. For simple commands like open an app, set an alarm etc. they suffice but fore more complex operations its just horseshit.