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> Their preferred ecological niche involves poor, salty soil. I looked at Wikipedia, to see what is a honey locust and Wikipedia (that arguably is not a grear

by rvba 3y ago

> Their preferred ecological niche involves poor, salty soil. I looked at Wikipedia, to see what is a honey locust and Wikipedia (that arguably is not a grear source) says that those trees are "mostly found in the moist soil of river valleys". ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honey_locust https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honey_locust ) So it seems wikipedia says something else than the article? The self named researcher is confused why trees that like water grow near water?

wak90 3y ago
His point was that it isn't the trees "natural" placement? That's kind of the theme of the post?
- pvaldes 3y ago
  > His point was that it isn't the trees "natural" placement? And is wrong
pvaldes 3y ago
> Their preferred ecological niche involves poor, salty soil. This is misunderstood. Is the same with pines. We see pine forests in terrible windy places, sandy places near beaches and chill snowy mountains. We could conclude that pines "prefer" this areas but is not totally true. Pines grow perfectly in fertile soils, but saplings can't compete and after some time are displaced by other trees. Conifers are very old plants and survivor masters that can stand bad lands that no other tree can endure. Poor soils equals often land-scars by old wildfires, so pines adapted to fire to spread its seeds and feel at home there even if they grow at a slug pace until eventually making a pine forest. they even evolved to promote fire as defense against competitors. When planted in rich soils pines grow perfectly well and fast, but a pine forest is just "a normal forest without everything else". Honey and black Locust trees are tolerant to poor soils because they can fix air nitrogen and have deep roots, but when allowed to run free are invasive and deliberately look for riverbeds with fertile soil and plenty of freshwater. In that places they regrow from roots again and again and are practically indestructible.

by rvba 3y ago

wak90 3y ago

His point was that it isn't the trees "natural" placement? That's kind of the theme of the post?

pvaldes 3y ago
> His point was that it isn't the trees "natural" placement? And is wrong

pvaldes 3y ago

> Their preferred ecological niche involves poor, salty soil. This is misunderstood. Is the same with pines. We see pine forests in terrible windy places, sandy places near beaches and chill snowy mountains. We could conclude that pines "prefer" this areas but is not totally true. Pines grow perfectly in fertile soils, but saplings can't compete and after some time are displaced by other trees. Conifers are very old plants and survivor masters that can stand bad lands that no other tree can endure. Poor soils equals often land-scars by old wildfires, so pines adapted to fire to spread its seeds and feel at home there even if they grow at a slug pace until eventually making a pine forest. they even evolved to promote fire as defense against competitors. When planted in rich soils pines grow perfectly well and fast, but a pine forest is just "a normal forest without everything else". Honey and black Locust trees are tolerant to poor soils because they can fix air nitrogen and have deep roots, but when allowed to run free are invasive and deliberately look for riverbeds with fertile soil and plenty of freshwater. In that places they regrow from roots again and again and are practically indestructible.