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To me the biggest mystery is why they didn't make multiple samples and send them to a few places that could verify their claims immediately. I understand that t

To me the biggest mystery is why they didn't make multiple samples and send them to a few places that could verify their claims immediately. I understand that the papers were published before they really wanted to but they've also apparently have had samples for awhile it sounds like? So assuming it's not BS (and I doubt that it is) it would lead me to believe that making the material is difficult to get right? The video they've produced uses a sample that isn't particularly elegant, to be sure. I guess it's all conjecture at this point and healthy skepticism is warranted. A press conference would be nice.

distortionfield 3y ago
That could very well have been their plan, they just got beat to the punch by the paper leak. Shrug. Probably won’t get the full story til next summer when Netflix inevitably does a C tier docu-drama series about it.
scarmig 3y ago
Skepticism is warranted, but apparently there's infighting in the group (only 3 people can be recipients of a Nobel Prize) and one jumped the gun to get his name out there. And also apparently fear of research espionage from the PRC (not as far-fetched as it sounds).
- geertj 3y ago
  Interesting.. would you have a source for those rumors?
  - HDThoreaun 3y ago
    It's just speculation because the third author on the first paper isn't an author on the second, better paper, and he's the one who published it.
    - Firmwarrior 3y ago
      Man, fucking scientists dude, they need to get their heads on straight If you're one of the 7 people who invented room temperature superconductivity, it's not going to matter who has the Nobel Prize. You can take a part time 7 figure consulting gig and be as famous as you want to boot
      - tedsanders 3y ago
        Most famous discovers of famous phenomena do not get 7 figure consulting gigs. Did any discoverers of high Tc superconductors, quantum hall, topological insulators, blue LEDs, graphene get rich? Not as far as I know.
      - rat9988 3y ago
        He probably won't even get 6 figure consulting gig.
  - nomel 3y ago
    Comment below the image: https://twitter.com/8teapi/status/1684571913908293633 https://twitter.com/8teapi/status/1684571913908293633
badman2001 3y ago
i do not understand this either regarding the samples, usually(in my limited experience) synthesis groups have collaborators that specialize in transport or other types of measurements which I think would have added a bit of credibility, probably could have gotten a measurement of Tc, and just generally added a lot to the paper

distortionfield 3y ago

That could very well have been their plan, they just got beat to the punch by the paper leak. Shrug. Probably won’t get the full story til next summer when Netflix inevitably does a C tier docu-drama series about it.

scarmig 3y ago

Skepticism is warranted, but apparently there's infighting in the group (only 3 people can be recipients of a Nobel Prize) and one jumped the gun to get his name out there. And also apparently fear of research espionage from the PRC (not as far-fetched as it sounds).

geertj 3y ago
Interesting.. would you have a source for those rumors?
- HDThoreaun 3y ago
  It's just speculation because the third author on the first paper isn't an author on the second, better paper, and he's the one who published it.
  - Firmwarrior 3y ago
    Man, fucking scientists dude, they need to get their heads on straight If you're one of the 7 people who invented room temperature superconductivity, it's not going to matter who has the Nobel Prize. You can take a part time 7 figure consulting gig and be as famous as you want to boot
    - tedsanders 3y ago
      Most famous discovers of famous phenomena do not get 7 figure consulting gigs. Did any discoverers of high Tc superconductors, quantum hall, topological insulators, blue LEDs, graphene get rich? Not as far as I know.
    - rat9988 3y ago
      He probably won't even get 6 figure consulting gig.
- nomel 3y ago
  Comment below the image: https://twitter.com/8teapi/status/1684571913908293633 https://twitter.com/8teapi/status/1684571913908293633

badman2001 3y ago

i do not understand this either regarding the samples, usually(in my limited experience) synthesis groups have collaborators that specialize in transport or other types of measurements which I think would have added a bit of credibility, probably could have gotten a measurement of Tc, and just generally added a lot to the paper