But we aren't teaching management "planning", we are teaching rigid structured systems for ticket tracking. We are teaching meaningless mumbo jumbo to people wi

But we aren't teaching management "planning", we are teaching rigid structured systems for ticket tracking. We are teaching meaningless mumbo jumbo to people with zero experience, seemingly even with toy examples, of solving difficult or complicated problems that require expert input, and managing people. Every single course I have ever seen on this stuff treats humans as black box cogs that perfectly do anything you define in a ticket, even when you do a terrible job defining something. That's not teaching management to plan, that's teaching management a board game. Meanwhile my CS class on agile and project management was just managing a real, large, somewhat purposely overwhelming project so we could stress the system and deal with failures. It showed us the value that some structure could bring, and also how you often clearly need to step back from that structure to do actual work.