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> Elon has an exceptional talent for tackling hard physics-based problems but products that facilitate human connection and communication require a different ty

> Elon has an exceptional talent for tackling hard physics-based problems but products that facilitate human connection and communication require a different type of social-emotional intelligence. This feels like the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect. The author encountered Elon working in their area of expertise, saw that Elon was wildly incompetent, and recognized that in this specific case Elon Musk was not a great leader. But then they looked at other areas where they didn't have specific knowledge or expertise and still assumed that Musk was a genius leader in those other areas.

nebula8804 3y ago
This right here is the million dollar question. I spent years following the Tesla drama and watching subs like /r/realTesla tear into Tesla's decisions. This sub was filled with "industry people" and well the naysayers have been screaming from the tops of hills since 2010 about Teslas mistakes. Most people ignored them because they are not in the auto industry. This quote from Bob Lutz explained it perfectly: https://youtu.be/GXJnS9RgKsg?t=2687 https://youtu.be/GXJnS9RgKsg?t=2687 I watched how they managed to will the Model X into production when it should have never have been built. They dug themselves into a giant grave by insisting on those falcon wing doors but they survived. I watched how they totally botched the Model 3 launch when it should have been the crowning achievement that showed that Tesla was now an established car brand. The amount of drama that occurred at the time was insane: making cars in "tents" in the parking lot, having a terrible body design, trying to force automation in all the wrong areas. In all these cases, the naysayers were proven wrong by Elon's ability to outlast his/his team's mistakes but at the same time they also managed to challenge assumptions that the industry thought was "the right way" to do things. Now we have incumbents copying Tesla's approaches to solving some problems. In the end who was right? I never really did get an answer to that. As a software guy I thought let me stay in my lane and trust the automotive industry people because thats what they do for a living. Before the pandemic I was so sure that following established industry insiders was the way to get insight. Now, I dont know anymore. But I can't reconcile the fact that as a software guy I know that the way Twitter was handled was a complete mess. Is this just another attempt at bungling along until it actually works? I guess the real deciding factor is does he have enough runway to keep plodding along until he figures it out?
- microtherion 3y ago
  > Now we have incumbents copying Tesla's approaches to solving some problems. Though not building cars in tents, to the best of my knowledge.
  - nebula8804 3y ago
    It baffles the mind how they continue to stumble with manufacturing while continuing to deliver innovative engineering at the same time.

nebula8804 3y ago

This right here is the million dollar question. I spent years following the Tesla drama and watching subs like /r/realTesla tear into Tesla's decisions. This sub was filled with "industry people" and well the naysayers have been screaming from the tops of hills since 2010 about Teslas mistakes. Most people ignored them because they are not in the auto industry. This quote from Bob Lutz explained it perfectly: https://youtu.be/GXJnS9RgKsg?t=2687 https://youtu.be/GXJnS9RgKsg?t=2687 I watched how they managed to will the Model X into production when it should have never have been built. They dug themselves into a giant grave by insisting on those falcon wing doors but they survived. I watched how they totally botched the Model 3 launch when it should have been the crowning achievement that showed that Tesla was now an established car brand. The amount of drama that occurred at the time was insane: making cars in "tents" in the parking lot, having a terrible body design, trying to force automation in all the wrong areas. In all these cases, the naysayers were proven wrong by Elon's ability to outlast his/his team's mistakes but at the same time they also managed to challenge assumptions that the industry thought was "the right way" to do things. Now we have incumbents copying Tesla's approaches to solving some problems. In the end who was right? I never really did get an answer to that. As a software guy I thought let me stay in my lane and trust the automotive industry people because thats what they do for a living. Before the pandemic I was so sure that following established industry insiders was the way to get insight. Now, I dont know anymore. But I can't reconcile the fact that as a software guy I know that the way Twitter was handled was a complete mess. Is this just another attempt at bungling along until it actually works? I guess the real deciding factor is does he have enough runway to keep plodding along until he figures it out?

microtherion 3y ago
> Now we have incumbents copying Tesla's approaches to solving some problems. Though not building cars in tents, to the best of my knowledge.
- nebula8804 3y ago
  It baffles the mind how they continue to stumble with manufacturing while continuing to deliver innovative engineering at the same time.