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Ugh this sensationalized trash reduces the trust of the public in the science. The reality of weather should not be reduced down to politics, yet here we are.

Ugh this sensationalized trash reduces the trust of the public in the science. The reality of weather should not be reduced down to politics, yet here we are. Living in idiocracy. We're in a strong el nino at the moment and it's not even the worst one in the last 50 years.

russdill 3y ago
So what you're saying, is that even with a weaker el nino, we still have higher global average temps? And this is somehow "sensationalized?"
- sublinear 3y ago
  Depends on how you define an "average" and what temperature you're measuring. The oceans are directly affected by global warming. The oceans are like a big thermal battery. The atmosphere and resulting weather are indirectly affected. What determines the weather are the global jetstreams. Global warming causes more turbulence in them, but the heat being experienced is not literally from global warming. It could be just as hot or cold or moreso in the past, and it definitely has been. You cannot go outside and feel global warming. That's a really dumb myth and my entire point. Every time it's hot it's an opportunity for the media to rally all the idiots together and wheel out the same tired propaganda and so many people believe it every time. It's very important to realize that all those graphs that show increasing temperatures are talking about the ocean.
  - solumunus 3y ago
    What about the ones I regularly see posted here showing the ocean warming at a worrying pace?
    - THENATHE 3y ago
      That still doesn’t contribute to the whole planet getting 10 degrees hotter in one year. The oceans heating up means that over the next 30+ years we see that kind of change maybe, honestly more like 80-120 years. Climate change is real, but this heat wave has nothing to do with it
steve_adams_86 3y ago
Even if 2023 was a cooler year, globally, I would still be seriously concerned about the decades-long trend of significant warming. The emphasis put on the warming this year is completely rational. Imagine if our global surface temperature average continues to steadily increase, say over 50 years, and we continue to see dramatic spikes in temperature like we're seeing now? Not only will habitats and the life within them be decimated, but humans will be included. In my small city, the 2021 heatwave in Western Canada killed over 600 people more than a heatwave typically would. That's staggering, and we're just getting started.

russdill 3y ago

So what you're saying, is that even with a weaker el nino, we still have higher global average temps? And this is somehow "sensationalized?"

sublinear 3y ago
Depends on how you define an "average" and what temperature you're measuring. The oceans are directly affected by global warming. The oceans are like a big thermal battery. The atmosphere and resulting weather are indirectly affected. What determines the weather are the global jetstreams. Global warming causes more turbulence in them, but the heat being experienced is not literally from global warming. It could be just as hot or cold or moreso in the past, and it definitely has been. You cannot go outside and feel global warming. That's a really dumb myth and my entire point. Every time it's hot it's an opportunity for the media to rally all the idiots together and wheel out the same tired propaganda and so many people believe it every time. It's very important to realize that all those graphs that show increasing temperatures are talking about the ocean.
- solumunus 3y ago
  What about the ones I regularly see posted here showing the ocean warming at a worrying pace?
  - THENATHE 3y ago
    That still doesn’t contribute to the whole planet getting 10 degrees hotter in one year. The oceans heating up means that over the next 30+ years we see that kind of change maybe, honestly more like 80-120 years. Climate change is real, but this heat wave has nothing to do with it

steve_adams_86 3y ago

Even if 2023 was a cooler year, globally, I would still be seriously concerned about the decades-long trend of significant warming. The emphasis put on the warming this year is completely rational. Imagine if our global surface temperature average continues to steadily increase, say over 50 years, and we continue to see dramatic spikes in temperature like we're seeing now? Not only will habitats and the life within them be decimated, but humans will be included. In my small city, the 2021 heatwave in Western Canada killed over 600 people more than a heatwave typically would. That's staggering, and we're just getting started.