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If you are a naturalized US citizen the government has your biometrics already, you can't become a citizen without giving them up. If you are a natural born ci

by elteto 3y ago

If you are a naturalized US citizen the government has your biometrics already, you can't become a citizen without giving them up. If you are a natural born citizen and have a passport the government has your picture. If not, there's the one in your driver's license. If not, a Google/Facebook search might dig one up. So if you don't have a passport, or DL, or social media presence at all then I agree, don't sign up for Global Entry. But otherwise...

chrisco255 3y ago
No you're not. All that's required to be a naturalized US citizen is to be physically born in the U.S. Or to be born to U.S. citizen parents. They also do not do biometrics for driver's licenses. A bad, 4 year old driver license photo from the local dmv is quite different than having an international database containing irrevocable details about your physiology. Among many lessons in history are the degree to which such details have been abused by those in power.
- linuxftw 3y ago
  Naturalized means you immigrated.
- toast0 3y ago
  > No you're not. All that's required to be a naturalized US citizen is to be physically born in the U.S. Or to be born to U.S. citizen parents. If you're a citizen by birth, you don't get naturalized (unless you've renounced and changed your mind), and that clause won't apply to you. > They also do not do biometrics for driver's licenses. California takes a thumbprint. I haven't done a survey of other states (I don't remember WA taking one, but it also wouldn't have been that surprising, so I might just not remember)
- bombcar 3y ago
  Naturalized = became a US citizen. Born in the US or born to US parents = natural born citizen
- orbital223 3y ago
  > All that's required to be a naturalized US citizen is to be physically born in the U.S. Or to be born to U.S. citizen parents. A naturalized citizen is someone who was not born a citizen and then becomes one. Both of your examples are of natural citizens.
- elteto 3y ago
  You need to check on those definitions. And Global Entry only requires to show a valid passport and state ID. There’s no thumbprints involved. So in effect, Global Entry requires only information that the government already has, especially if you have a passport.
- astura 3y ago
  >All that's required to be a naturalized US citizen is to be physically born in the U.S. You're getting "naturalized citizen" confused with "natural born citizen."

by elteto 3y ago

chrisco255 3y ago

No you're not. All that's required to be a naturalized US citizen is to be physically born in the U.S. Or to be born to U.S. citizen parents. They also do not do biometrics for driver's licenses. A bad, 4 year old driver license photo from the local dmv is quite different than having an international database containing irrevocable details about your physiology. Among many lessons in history are the degree to which such details have been abused by those in power.

linuxftw 3y ago
Naturalized means you immigrated.
toast0 3y ago
> No you're not. All that's required to be a naturalized US citizen is to be physically born in the U.S. Or to be born to U.S. citizen parents. If you're a citizen by birth, you don't get naturalized (unless you've renounced and changed your mind), and that clause won't apply to you. > They also do not do biometrics for driver's licenses. California takes a thumbprint. I haven't done a survey of other states (I don't remember WA taking one, but it also wouldn't have been that surprising, so I might just not remember)
bombcar 3y ago
Naturalized = became a US citizen. Born in the US or born to US parents = natural born citizen
orbital223 3y ago
> All that's required to be a naturalized US citizen is to be physically born in the U.S. Or to be born to U.S. citizen parents. A naturalized citizen is someone who was not born a citizen and then becomes one. Both of your examples are of natural citizens.
elteto 3y ago
You need to check on those definitions. And Global Entry only requires to show a valid passport and state ID. There’s no thumbprints involved. So in effect, Global Entry requires only information that the government already has, especially if you have a passport.
astura 3y ago
>All that's required to be a naturalized US citizen is to be physically born in the U.S. You're getting "naturalized citizen" confused with "natural born citizen."