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What chance is there that anything will come of this grandstanding move?

by mikece 3y ago

filoleg 3y ago
The only thing that I foresee coming out of this is increased re-election chances for some of those house representatives on the judiciary panel. Mostly due to this grandstanding move making it appear like they are trying to be "tough on big tech" and are doing something against the "big bad zucc". This is so stupid and tiring. At this point the only thing I am hoping for is that will be at least as entertaining and idiosyncratic as the infamous Zuck senate hearing from 2018.
sangnoir 3y ago
Considering that the chair (Jim Jordan) himself ignored a subpoena from a similar committee (Jan 6) with no consequences; I'd say the chances are slim to none.
- vkou 3y ago
  Well, that's just a natural consequence of a checks-and-balances system that has bugs... Like expecting a group of people to enforce the law against themselves. Zuck, on the other hand, 'only' has plain-old upper-class-privilege to lean on.
  - wnevets 3y ago
    > Zuck, on the other hand, only has plain-old upper-class-privilege to lean on. I imagine being a billionaire provides a bit more than plain-old upper-class-privilege
    - sangnoir 3y ago
      He can sponsor the campaigns of every single Representative (or their opponents) and not break a sweat - he's wealthier than the Koch brother(s).If he picks up a phone, most reps - including those on the committee - will hear him out. Zuck could wrangle more allies in the House than Jim Jordan.
- kyrra 3y ago
  I think the issue is that Democrats did not want to push it farther because they didn't want Republicans to turn around and use it against them. https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/590947-house-has-the-power-to-subpoena-its-members-but-does-it-have-the-will/ https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/590947-house-has-the-p... They're likely plenty of republican hobby horse issues where they would start subpoenaing other members of Congress once they had power.
  - MildRant 3y ago
    This line of thinking is what lets Republicans do whatever they please and get away with it.
    - FrustratedMonky 3y ago
      Happens when one side is following the rules, and the other side isn't. Democrats have to be squeaky clean. Republican can stage coup's.
      - colechristensen 3y ago
        Republicans are insane, Democrats are cowards, neither lead. This is what you get when you try to get everyone to vote. Your vote counts! But when too many people who have no idea what's going on vote, the game of who gets elected becomes "who can take advantage of the ignorant masses best?". Which is why we got a reality TV personality as a president and zero pressure by the electorate to get the Democrats to get anything done.
        FrustratedMonky 3y ago
        Of course they are cowards. Republicans have far more guns, have anger issues, and are willing to use them. I'm guessing what you are advocating is for Democrats to do more? To become more radical? But look at the rest of the posts in this thread, at how many people are calling liberals fascist. What would happen if they actually tried to do something?

What chance is there that anything will come of this grandstanding move?

by mikece 3y ago

What chance is there that anything will come of this grandstanding move?

The only thing that I foresee coming out of this is increased re-election chances for some of those house representatives on the judiciary panel. Mostly due to this grandstanding move making it appear like they are trying to be "tough on big tech" and are doing something against the "big bad zucc". This is so stupid and tiring. At this point the only thing I am hoping for is that will be at least as entertaining and idiosyncratic as the infamous Zuck senate hearing from 2018.

sangnoir 3y ago

Considering that the chair (Jim Jordan) himself ignored a subpoena from a similar committee (Jan 6) with no consequences; I'd say the chances are slim to none.

vkou 3y ago
Well, that's just a natural consequence of a checks-and-balances system that has bugs... Like expecting a group of people to enforce the law against themselves. Zuck, on the other hand, 'only' has plain-old upper-class-privilege to lean on.
- wnevets 3y ago
  > Zuck, on the other hand, only has plain-old upper-class-privilege to lean on. I imagine being a billionaire provides a bit more than plain-old upper-class-privilege
  - sangnoir 3y ago
    He can sponsor the campaigns of every single Representative (or their opponents) and not break a sweat - he's wealthier than the Koch brother(s).If he picks up a phone, most reps - including those on the committee - will hear him out. Zuck could wrangle more allies in the House than Jim Jordan.
kyrra 3y ago
I think the issue is that Democrats did not want to push it farther because they didn't want Republicans to turn around and use it against them. https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/590947-house-has-the-power-to-subpoena-its-members-but-does-it-have-the-will/ https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/590947-house-has-the-p... They're likely plenty of republican hobby horse issues where they would start subpoenaing other members of Congress once they had power.
- MildRant 3y ago
  This line of thinking is what lets Republicans do whatever they please and get away with it.
  - FrustratedMonky 3y ago
    Happens when one side is following the rules, and the other side isn't. Democrats have to be squeaky clean. Republican can stage coup's.
    - colechristensen 3y ago
      Republicans are insane, Democrats are cowards, neither lead. This is what you get when you try to get everyone to vote. Your vote counts! But when too many people who have no idea what's going on vote, the game of who gets elected becomes "who can take advantage of the ignorant masses best?". Which is why we got a reality TV personality as a president and zero pressure by the electorate to get the Democrats to get anything done.
      - FrustratedMonky 3y ago
        Of course they are cowards. Republicans have far more guns, have anger issues, and are willing to use them. I'm guessing what you are advocating is for Democrats to do more? To become more radical? But look at the rest of the posts in this thread, at how many people are calling liberals fascist. What would happen if they actually tried to do something?