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Probably pretty low! Fear is often not a rational experience, though. Interacting with American cops has become scary, and thus we don't have a ton of people d

Probably pretty low! Fear is often not a rational experience, though. Interacting with American cops has become scary, and thus we don't have a ton of people doing what this guy is doing.

autoexec 3y ago
I think in this case fear is a pretty rational response considering that police could rob, rape, or murder you and would likely face zero consequences for it even if it were all caught on camera.
- s1artibartfast 3y ago
  Do you really believe that that's true? That a cop can rape someone on camera and the likely outcome is no consequences?
  - autoexec 3y ago
    Honestly yes. Obviously there's a lot of disparity in how video evidence of crimes committed by police are handled. Some officers do get charged and convicted, some get fired with no charges brought, others voluntarily retire, and some only get paid vacations before they're cleared of all wrong doing, but considering how often police have gotten away with outright executing people on video, is it really so hard to imagine it isn't happening with rape? What I can say is that I haven't seen the footage of police raping someone shown by the news (with the exception of Daniel Wilkey - https://youtu.be/90UuIJkeZYg https://youtu.be/90UuIJkeZYg), and I imagine that many victims would object to that footage going public. I think it's reasonable to conclude that rape is less likely to be filmed (by police, victims, or bystanders) in the first place and more likely to go unreported entirely than the beatings and murders we usually see footage of. Still, we know that police do rape people. Personally, even things like this are terrifyingly dystopian: https://www.cnn.com/2013/11/06/justice/new-mexico-search-lawsuit/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2013/11/06/justice/new-mexico-search-law... https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix/2020/09/29/phoenix-police-cavity-search-amounted-rape-erica-reynolds-says/3312915001/ https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix/2020/09/2... https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2018/12/19/syracuse-man-subjected-anal-cavity-search-drugs-then-hit-with-hospital-bill/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2018/12/19/syracuse-... But there's at least some thin excuse for why that should be allowed. We've also seen cops caught who ended up with a long list of victims and/or a history of complaints. https://www.foxnews.com/us/maryland-cop-arrested-custody-kohls-lot-rape-allegedly-more-victims-history-misconduct https://www.foxnews.com/us/maryland-cop-arrested-custody-koh... https://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2019/may/13/desmond-logan-rape-lawsuit/ https://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2019/may/13/desmond-loga... https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/11/us/tennessee-deputy-daniel-wilkey.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/11/us/tennessee-deputy-danie... https://www.wdrb.com/news/fourth-woman-files-lawsuit-accusing-former-lmpd-officer-of-rape/article_2f9a301c-f07f-5025-b2d4-ff8f4db2198c.html https://www.wdrb.com/news/fourth-woman-files-lawsuit-accusin... https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2022/09/23/roger-golubski-kansas-city-detective-arrest/10428509002/?gnt-cfr=1 https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2022/09/23/roger-... https://www.newsday.com/long-island/nassau/hempstead-village-police-officer-lawsuit-q00915 https://www.newsday.com/long-island/nassau/hempstead-village... I'd like to think that today things are slowly getting better and that if a video was released which clearly showed police raping someone at least something would be done about it, but I really don't have any reason to think that police would get away with rape any less often than they do murder.

Probably pretty low! Fear is often not a rational experience, though. Interacting with American cops has become scary, and thus we don't have a ton of people doing what this guy is doing.

autoexec 3y ago

I think in this case fear is a pretty rational response considering that police could rob, rape, or murder you and would likely face zero consequences for it even if it were all caught on camera.

s1artibartfast 3y ago
Do you really believe that that's true? That a cop can rape someone on camera and the likely outcome is no consequences?
- autoexec 3y ago
  Honestly yes. Obviously there's a lot of disparity in how video evidence of crimes committed by police are handled. Some officers do get charged and convicted, some get fired with no charges brought, others voluntarily retire, and some only get paid vacations before they're cleared of all wrong doing, but considering how often police have gotten away with outright executing people on video, is it really so hard to imagine it isn't happening with rape? What I can say is that I haven't seen the footage of police raping someone shown by the news (with the exception of Daniel Wilkey - https://youtu.be/90UuIJkeZYg https://youtu.be/90UuIJkeZYg), and I imagine that many victims would object to that footage going public. I think it's reasonable to conclude that rape is less likely to be filmed (by police, victims, or bystanders) in the first place and more likely to go unreported entirely than the beatings and murders we usually see footage of. Still, we know that police do rape people. Personally, even things like this are terrifyingly dystopian: https://www.cnn.com/2013/11/06/justice/new-mexico-search-lawsuit/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2013/11/06/justice/new-mexico-search-law... https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix/2020/09/29/phoenix-police-cavity-search-amounted-rape-erica-reynolds-says/3312915001/ https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix/2020/09/2... https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2018/12/19/syracuse-man-subjected-anal-cavity-search-drugs-then-hit-with-hospital-bill/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2018/12/19/syracuse-... But there's at least some thin excuse for why that should be allowed. We've also seen cops caught who ended up with a long list of victims and/or a history of complaints. https://www.foxnews.com/us/maryland-cop-arrested-custody-kohls-lot-rape-allegedly-more-victims-history-misconduct https://www.foxnews.com/us/maryland-cop-arrested-custody-koh... https://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2019/may/13/desmond-logan-rape-lawsuit/ https://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2019/may/13/desmond-loga... https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/11/us/tennessee-deputy-daniel-wilkey.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/11/us/tennessee-deputy-danie... https://www.wdrb.com/news/fourth-woman-files-lawsuit-accusing-former-lmpd-officer-of-rape/article_2f9a301c-f07f-5025-b2d4-ff8f4db2198c.html https://www.wdrb.com/news/fourth-woman-files-lawsuit-accusin... https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2022/09/23/roger-golubski-kansas-city-detective-arrest/10428509002/?gnt-cfr=1 https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2022/09/23/roger-... https://www.newsday.com/long-island/nassau/hempstead-village-police-officer-lawsuit-q00915 https://www.newsday.com/long-island/nassau/hempstead-village... I'd like to think that today things are slowly getting better and that if a video was released which clearly showed police raping someone at least something would be done about it, but I really don't have any reason to think that police would get away with rape any less often than they do murder.