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"I like X, therefore any negative information about X is lies propagated by their enemies" is a dangerous position to take.

by smsm42 3y ago

hot_gril 3y ago
The danger is that he buys a bad Tesla one day. Oh well. This was the position I took with the iPhone 4 long ago because of the nonsense "antennagate" thing. I said forget Consumer Reports, the phone works fine. The tech magazines were (and still are?) also touting the latest "iPhone killer" random Android phone, and I said nah they're paid. If I listened to them, I'd have like a Motorola DROID EpiC XX2.
- smsm42 3y ago
  It's a low-stakes danger for buying a Tesla, probably - though I would never buy one, at least in current design, because I think it's acutely dangerous to be by not having tactile controls that do not require me to look at them - but if it's not a problem for that person, so be it. But in general such approach to evaluating information would make one take bad decisions. > I said forget Consumer Reports, the phone works fine. If it works for you, then it works for you. It's not the same as saying people for whom it doesn't work are motivated liars, though.
  - hot_gril 3y ago
    > If it works for you, then it works for you. It's not the same as saying people for whom it doesn't work are motivated liars, though. I do suspect there were motivated liars involved, at least the media just wanting to benefit from hyping things up, because the claim was so bogus. I'm not that unique of a person that the iPhone 4 works specially for me. Actual buyers had the option to return the phone if it had issues, and basically nobody was doing that, both anecdotally and by stats.
andykellr 3y ago
I like X and have had a good experience with X and negative information about X that conflicts with my personal experience with X may be called into question. I may even feel compelled to share my personal experience so that other people can have the same positive experience I have had.

"I like X, therefore any negative information about X is lies propagated by their enemies" is a dangerous position to take.

by smsm42 3y ago

"I like X, therefore any negative information about X is lies propagated by their enemies" is a dangerous position to take.

hot_gril 3y ago

The danger is that he buys a bad Tesla one day. Oh well. This was the position I took with the iPhone 4 long ago because of the nonsense "antennagate" thing. I said forget Consumer Reports, the phone works fine. The tech magazines were (and still are?) also touting the latest "iPhone killer" random Android phone, and I said nah they're paid. If I listened to them, I'd have like a Motorola DROID EpiC XX2.

smsm42 3y ago
It's a low-stakes danger for buying a Tesla, probably - though I would never buy one, at least in current design, because I think it's acutely dangerous to be by not having tactile controls that do not require me to look at them - but if it's not a problem for that person, so be it. But in general such approach to evaluating information would make one take bad decisions. > I said forget Consumer Reports, the phone works fine. If it works for you, then it works for you. It's not the same as saying people for whom it doesn't work are motivated liars, though.
- hot_gril 3y ago
  > If it works for you, then it works for you. It's not the same as saying people for whom it doesn't work are motivated liars, though. I do suspect there were motivated liars involved, at least the media just wanting to benefit from hyping things up, because the claim was so bogus. I'm not that unique of a person that the iPhone 4 works specially for me. Actual buyers had the option to return the phone if it had issues, and basically nobody was doing that, both anecdotally and by stats.

andykellr 3y ago

I like X and have had a good experience with X and negative information about X that conflicts with my personal experience with X may be called into question. I may even feel compelled to share my personal experience so that other people can have the same positive experience I have had.