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I think there are many factors for this. I'm not sure which year you picked up for the 100k numer, but it sounds insane. Are you sure this is correct? In the en

I think there are many factors for this. I'm not sure which year you picked up for the 100k numer, but it sounds insane. Are you sure this is correct? In the entire EU (comparable population to US) there are approximately 6k overdose deaths per year(5800 in 2020). In one member state Poland (I'm picking it as its my country, not because of any better/worse rate) it's around 240 people annually (2006-2016). That's 0.6 per 100k people. Half that you quote for Singapore and we have no death penalty. I suspect there must be something else at play here. Perhaps they (Singapore and USA) count all drugs like Tylenol/Paracetamol and EU/Poland only counts illicit drugs. I can't believe there would be such a huge difference unless there is a mistake in data somewhere.

jonhohle 3y ago
In the US there were over 100k deaths in 2021 [0]. 0 - https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db457.htm#:~:text=Drug%20overdose%20deaths%20have%20risen,increased%20from%2017.1%20to%2019.6 https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db457.htm#:~:te....
- Roark66 3y ago
  Very interesting, here is a good source that covers 2021 in Europe https://www.emcdda.europa.eu/publications/european-drug-report/2023/drug-induced-deaths_en https://www.emcdda.europa.eu/publications/european-drug-repo... It seems the difference really is that huge. US 32.6 per 100k in EU it is 1.83 per 100k(18.3 per million) so similar to Singapore. Within EU there is large variability between countries. In US it seems the number of overdose deaths raised 5 fold recently! Recently. In EU they say it raised recently in some countries but dropped in others so overall the trend is growing, but not that quickly. After reading how they report this data there is one component that seems different. US includes suicides in its count (about 4% of reported overdose deaths) while it is unclear if EU does the same. So we should probably lower the US numbers by that 4%, but still the difference is an order of magnitude. To me this data illustrates the point I made very well. Death penalty is not a crime deterrent. Coming back to this huge number I was interested in finding out if it's US that has more than average of these deaths, or is it EU that has less and it's difficult to find reliable data for many other places. So I looked at India for example and I found an official report that claims all causes accidental deaths(including suicides) per 100k is less than just drug overdose deaths in US. I wonder if there is any research that tries to answer why this is so. I'd love to find out.

jonhohle 3y ago

In the US there were over 100k deaths in 2021 [0]. 0 - https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db457.htm#:~:text=Drug%20overdose%20deaths%20have%20risen,increased%20from%2017.1%20to%2019.6 https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db457.htm#:~:te....

Roark66 3y ago
Very interesting, here is a good source that covers 2021 in Europe https://www.emcdda.europa.eu/publications/european-drug-report/2023/drug-induced-deaths_en https://www.emcdda.europa.eu/publications/european-drug-repo... It seems the difference really is that huge. US 32.6 per 100k in EU it is 1.83 per 100k(18.3 per million) so similar to Singapore. Within EU there is large variability between countries. In US it seems the number of overdose deaths raised 5 fold recently! Recently. In EU they say it raised recently in some countries but dropped in others so overall the trend is growing, but not that quickly. After reading how they report this data there is one component that seems different. US includes suicides in its count (about 4% of reported overdose deaths) while it is unclear if EU does the same. So we should probably lower the US numbers by that 4%, but still the difference is an order of magnitude. To me this data illustrates the point I made very well. Death penalty is not a crime deterrent. Coming back to this huge number I was interested in finding out if it's US that has more than average of these deaths, or is it EU that has less and it's difficult to find reliable data for many other places. So I looked at India for example and I found an official report that claims all causes accidental deaths(including suicides) per 100k is less than just drug overdose deaths in US. I wonder if there is any research that tries to answer why this is so. I'd love to find out.