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Except all the examples you offered harm people, and porn harms people like water harms people.

joker_minmax 3y ago
You should look into the GirlsDoPorn case where the actresses were forced into signing their contracts under duress. When they wanted their content removed because of this, PornHub enacted the most useless content recognition software ever, which ignored almost all the re-uploads, allowing them to continue making money off of the content. And the company that produced the content sent people to harass the women day and night. This was just a few years ago. While I am sure not every video was produced this way, this also cannot be a one-off, and saying it's purely harmless is incorrect. Unless your analogy about water is that it only harms you in a large amount, or when it has extreme force behind it?
- thefurdrake 3y ago
  > porn harms people like water harms people My analogy is that water is fine until it's used in excess or in the wrong contexts. I dislike your use of "only" trying to restrict the reach of the analogy, though. Everything you described isn't related to porn, it's related to the porn industry. What you're really criticizing here is corporatism, not porn.
  - NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
    Nike shoes only harm people if you kick them, or throw one hard enough? Blood diamonds only harm people if they swallow too many?
    - thefurdrake 3y ago
      I feel like you're trying to make a point here, but it's not coming across.
      - NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
        I'm interested that you're personally able to separate "porn" the product from "the porn industry" (whatever that is; I'm surprised that you think it's some kind of monolithic singular thing). It's weird as if "porn" could move through the world, created by nobody in particular, and distributed by nobody else in particular, and consumed by nobody who matters, not damaging anyone's body, morals, or psyche along the whole supply chain. Baffling. Beggars belief. Are you American? How would you feel about repealing FOSTA-SESTA? I mean, if nobody's getting hurt, why ban slavery?
  - joker_minmax 3y ago
    The product of the industry is still a product of, and dependent on, that industry. Otherwise the industry would not exist, and the product would exist, but in much different form than most people encounter it today.

You should look into the GirlsDoPorn case where the actresses were forced into signing their contracts under duress. When they wanted their content removed because of this, PornHub enacted the most useless content recognition software ever, which ignored almost all the re-uploads, allowing them to continue making money off of the content. And the company that produced the content sent people to harass the women day and night. This was just a few years ago. While I am sure not every video was produced this way, this also cannot be a one-off, and saying it's purely harmless is incorrect. Unless your analogy about water is that it only harms you in a large amount, or when it has extreme force behind it?

thefurdrake 3y ago
> porn harms people like water harms people My analogy is that water is fine until it's used in excess or in the wrong contexts. I dislike your use of "only" trying to restrict the reach of the analogy, though. Everything you described isn't related to porn, it's related to the porn industry. What you're really criticizing here is corporatism, not porn.
- NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
  Nike shoes only harm people if you kick them, or throw one hard enough? Blood diamonds only harm people if they swallow too many?
  - thefurdrake 3y ago
    I feel like you're trying to make a point here, but it's not coming across.
    - NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
      I'm interested that you're personally able to separate "porn" the product from "the porn industry" (whatever that is; I'm surprised that you think it's some kind of monolithic singular thing). It's weird as if "porn" could move through the world, created by nobody in particular, and distributed by nobody else in particular, and consumed by nobody who matters, not damaging anyone's body, morals, or psyche along the whole supply chain. Baffling. Beggars belief. Are you American? How would you feel about repealing FOSTA-SESTA? I mean, if nobody's getting hurt, why ban slavery?
- joker_minmax 3y ago
  The product of the industry is still a product of, and dependent on, that industry. Otherwise the industry would not exist, and the product would exist, but in much different form than most people encounter it today.