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This is why you have a human driver do the “busy local street” part and then have the truck drive itself for the “follow the speed limit on an almost-featureles

by taneq 3y ago

This is why you have a human driver do the “busy local street” part and then have the truck drive itself for the “follow the speed limit on an almost-featureless highway for 16 hours” part.

toomuchtodo 3y ago
We do this for aircraft current state. The pilot manages the autopilot and exception handling. It's sort of silly we don't throw automatic emergency braking and lane keeping in trucks and call it a day.
- dylan604 3y ago
  Self driving companies want to sell us that we don't need a human operator at all. That's what the companies with large fleets of vehicles want so they the expenses of paying humans. Adding an "autopilot" to a truck while still having a human driver in the truck is not saving the company any money. Requiring a human also means that a truck cannot drive 24/7 like if it was 100% computer operated. Airlines deal with this as well by having maximum operating hours just like truck drivers. So, unless it's 100% computer controlled, there's really not much point in it from the fleet owner's perspective
  - gpvos 3y ago
    I've always thought that the fastest to achieve scenario would be: human driver drives truck to the first rest area on the highway, gets out and lets the autopilot do the rest. Vice versa when exiting the highway. You'll need some logistics planning to get the drivers to and from the right places, but that's not so hard; lots of rest areas are connected to the other side of the road (at least in Europe). Is no one working on that?
  - ddalex 3y ago
    > Self driving companies want to rent us FTFY
    - dylan604 3y ago
      They have to sell the concept for us to want to rent the tech is more the sentiment I was after but completed with your sentiment
- abakker 3y ago
  the thing about airplanes, is that although they are going fast, the margins for exceptions can be a lot wider. In a truck on a highway the margin of error is only feet. I don't know that a driver can really react meaningfully fast, especially if they are zoning out or idle. And, if they're not zoning out but instead paying close attention, what has been gained? Agree on lane keeping, but my experience with emergency braking has been less than stellar. it seems to mostly react accidentally and occasionally not do what it is supposed to.
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by taneq 3y ago

This is why you have a human driver do the “busy local street” part and then have the truck drive itself for the “follow the speed limit on an almost-featureless highway for 16 hours” part.

toomuchtodo 3y ago

We do this for aircraft current state. The pilot manages the autopilot and exception handling. It's sort of silly we don't throw automatic emergency braking and lane keeping in trucks and call it a day.

dylan604 3y ago
Self driving companies want to sell us that we don't need a human operator at all. That's what the companies with large fleets of vehicles want so they the expenses of paying humans. Adding an "autopilot" to a truck while still having a human driver in the truck is not saving the company any money. Requiring a human also means that a truck cannot drive 24/7 like if it was 100% computer operated. Airlines deal with this as well by having maximum operating hours just like truck drivers. So, unless it's 100% computer controlled, there's really not much point in it from the fleet owner's perspective
- gpvos 3y ago
  I've always thought that the fastest to achieve scenario would be: human driver drives truck to the first rest area on the highway, gets out and lets the autopilot do the rest. Vice versa when exiting the highway. You'll need some logistics planning to get the drivers to and from the right places, but that's not so hard; lots of rest areas are connected to the other side of the road (at least in Europe). Is no one working on that?
- ddalex 3y ago
  > Self driving companies want to rent us FTFY
  - dylan604 3y ago
    They have to sell the concept for us to want to rent the tech is more the sentiment I was after but completed with your sentiment
abakker 3y ago
the thing about airplanes, is that although they are going fast, the margins for exceptions can be a lot wider. In a truck on a highway the margin of error is only feet. I don't know that a driver can really react meaningfully fast, especially if they are zoning out or idle. And, if they're not zoning out but instead paying close attention, what has been gained? Agree on lane keeping, but my experience with emergency braking has been less than stellar. it seems to mostly react accidentally and occasionally not do what it is supposed to.

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