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'Western' has nothing to do with it. There's right and wrong, and this is clearly wrong. It's not in any sense Justice.

RcouF1uZ4gsC 3y ago
There are many who would say this is clearly right. Executing drug traffickers for Singapore, causes the amount of drug use to decrease and saves many more lives.
- CoastalCoder 3y ago
  This is my view as well. My main reservation is that, at least in the US, we've had a problem with executing people who may have been innocent.
  - rented_mule 3y ago
    Is it possible for any justice system to be free of corruption and infallible in identifying guilt? If not, innocent people will be executed.
    - CoastalCoder 3y ago
      I agree. On my view, it's ultimately a quantitative question. E.g., if we had a system where 1 unjust execution avoided 1 million being killed by drunk drivers, I'd chose the unjust execution. But if those numbers were reversed, I wouldn't. But if I'm being honest, I can't justify why someone should prefer my ethical framework over some other. So I'm not sure my opinion means much in the end.
    - axdx 3y ago
      Innocent people do get sentenced to imprisonment. There is one incident that I can remember from the recent past. This individual was fortunate to get her conviction overturned by a pro-bono lawyer's efforts. https://www.home.org.sg/our-updates/2020/9/7/parti-liyani-an-indonesian-domestic-workers-fight-to-clear-her-name-1 https://www.home.org.sg/our-updates/2020/9/7/parti-liyani-an...
  - foogazi 3y ago
    > at least in the US, we've had a problem with executing people who may have been innocent. thankfully Singapore doesn’t have this problem /s
CoastalCoder 3y ago
Could you clarify? I can't tell what position you're stating.
- PrimeMcFly 3y ago
  I don't think it is ethically defensible in any morally serious way to defend putting a person to death as a deterrent. Human life should be considered precious, and not discarded with just to set an example of strength.
BowBun 3y ago
Right and wrong are relative to the culture you are raised in or are currently living in, so your statement can't be true.
- PrimeMcFly 3y ago
  > Right and wrong are relative to the culture you are raised in or are currently living in, Study of ethics transcends culture.

There are many who would say this is clearly right. Executing drug traffickers for Singapore, causes the amount of drug use to decrease and saves many more lives.

CoastalCoder 3y ago
This is my view as well. My main reservation is that, at least in the US, we've had a problem with executing people who may have been innocent.
- rented_mule 3y ago
  Is it possible for any justice system to be free of corruption and infallible in identifying guilt? If not, innocent people will be executed.
  - CoastalCoder 3y ago
    I agree. On my view, it's ultimately a quantitative question. E.g., if we had a system where 1 unjust execution avoided 1 million being killed by drunk drivers, I'd chose the unjust execution. But if those numbers were reversed, I wouldn't. But if I'm being honest, I can't justify why someone should prefer my ethical framework over some other. So I'm not sure my opinion means much in the end.
  - axdx 3y ago
    Innocent people do get sentenced to imprisonment. There is one incident that I can remember from the recent past. This individual was fortunate to get her conviction overturned by a pro-bono lawyer's efforts. https://www.home.org.sg/our-updates/2020/9/7/parti-liyani-an-indonesian-domestic-workers-fight-to-clear-her-name-1 https://www.home.org.sg/our-updates/2020/9/7/parti-liyani-an...
- foogazi 3y ago
  > at least in the US, we've had a problem with executing people who may have been innocent. thankfully Singapore doesn’t have this problem /s

CoastalCoder 3y ago

Could you clarify? I can't tell what position you're stating.

PrimeMcFly 3y ago
I don't think it is ethically defensible in any morally serious way to defend putting a person to death as a deterrent. Human life should be considered precious, and not discarded with just to set an example of strength.

BowBun 3y ago

Right and wrong are relative to the culture you are raised in or are currently living in, so your statement can't be true.

PrimeMcFly 3y ago
> Right and wrong are relative to the culture you are raised in or are currently living in, Study of ethics transcends culture.