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I understand the regulatory / Slack perspective on it, put I have my troubles from a architecture perspective. The amount of interface you would need to decoupl

by oaiey 3y ago

I understand the regulatory / Slack perspective on it, put I have my troubles from a architecture perspective. The amount of interface you would need to decouple Sharepoint from Teams is huge. People/Groups, Documents, Snippets, Full-Size Integrations, etc ... this is basically M365 cloud offering. No idea how slack ever wants to compete or integrate M365. Everyone who once opened Teams on Windows 11 see what a joke that is. And not having it, is a huge step backwards. So I do not know how unbundling might realistically work.

Ekaros 3y ago
And sometimes I wish they could also bundle Outlook in Teams... The horror that would be, but it is clearly missing an email client and it would have everything.
- bombcar 3y ago
  Calendaring has already halfheartedly moved over. Email isn’t far behind.
  - nikau 3y ago
    teams is awful for its calendaring. eg. in slack if you get a message you want to look at later, you can just click on it, go remind me in 1 hr, tomorrow 9am and a few other logical defaults. Teams only has some shitty way to create a task that is slow and laggy and doesn't have sane defaults so most of the time you end up just copying the message and making a new outlook appointment.
    - bombcar 3y ago
      It’s horrible. I had to untrain people from using teams to create meetings because it would default to using a team or channel or something and invite everyone and be incomprehensible in some cases, absolute junk. Which means the new outlook will become a teams tab by year’s end, I guess.
layer8 3y ago
I think the point is they didn’t have to architect it that way. Software would be more useful when designed for interoperability and plugability, instead of having the strongly-coupled amorphous landscape you describe.
7952 3y ago
Teams is not competing with messenger apps like slack, it is competing with Operating Systems. They are building an ecosystem that a business user never needs to leave. And not just competing with Mac OS, Android etc. But competing with the traditional windows machines where a user has a real file system and native software.

by oaiey 3y ago

Ekaros 3y ago

And sometimes I wish they could also bundle Outlook in Teams... The horror that would be, but it is clearly missing an email client and it would have everything.

bombcar 3y ago
Calendaring has already halfheartedly moved over. Email isn’t far behind.
- nikau 3y ago
  teams is awful for its calendaring. eg. in slack if you get a message you want to look at later, you can just click on it, go remind me in 1 hr, tomorrow 9am and a few other logical defaults. Teams only has some shitty way to create a task that is slow and laggy and doesn't have sane defaults so most of the time you end up just copying the message and making a new outlook appointment.
  - bombcar 3y ago
    It’s horrible. I had to untrain people from using teams to create meetings because it would default to using a team or channel or something and invite everyone and be incomprehensible in some cases, absolute junk. Which means the new outlook will become a teams tab by year’s end, I guess.

layer8 3y ago

I think the point is they didn’t have to architect it that way. Software would be more useful when designed for interoperability and plugability, instead of having the strongly-coupled amorphous landscape you describe.

7952 3y ago

Teams is not competing with messenger apps like slack, it is competing with Operating Systems. They are building an ecosystem that a business user never needs to leave. And not just competing with Mac OS, Android etc. But competing with the traditional windows machines where a user has a real file system and native software.